Brené Brown

That is not my terrain.

I want to hear about your favorite paradox or least favorite.

That's good.

It took me a second.

Thank you.

I'm like, wait, is this, is this Phil Collins Genesis?

I've heard about it a little, not much.

Tell me more.

I mean, have Glazer and Strauss ever been the subject of an entire podcast before?

So helpful.

Yet, not only does it make sense, where have you been in every, I feel like about half the people I work with think I'm a gritty facts person and the other half think I'm a gritty faith person because I'm always trying to add the one that's missing.

And get people to understand we got to do both.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But like, but then you get pigeonholed as the person who's always complaining or, you know, like being a negative, what is it?

A negative Nancy, a nervous Nelly.

Why, why are these all women by the way?

But yeah.

Neil.

Or you get kind of, you get stereotyped as a little Pollyanna because you're saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that there are problems, but I also believe that we can solve them.