Brené Brown

I had a high bottom.

Yeah.

That's what we call it in the program.

I think inside, you know, inside of the recovery community, my experience is it's probably 20% rock bottom recovery.

maybe 40% an event that's like, I can't do this anymore.

And then 40%, I want something different for my life.

And I feel like that kind of high bottom, the writings on the wall, this is not what I want for myself, has actually grown in the last 10 years when people say they're experimenting with sobriety, they want to do something different.

I mean,

I don't want to overstate this, but it seems like the medical community is five minutes away from just basically saying the shit's poison.

And all the early findings about, you know, three glasses of wine will do you good to like, no, no, no, we're not sure this is good at all.

So I think it's changing.

I think just outside of recovery, the story is rock bottom.

And

The power of community, one of my favorite sayings is the opposite of addiction is not sobriety.

The opposite of addiction is connection.

And so it's a connection-fueled program.

And sitting in a room with people who, even having gone to some jailhouse meetings, you can look at anybody.

Maybe they killed someone in a drinking accident.

I mean, you can look at anyone and think, oh, well, there but for the grace of God, you know?

And I think that's part of the power of it.