Brené Brown

But I can't think of a moment.

You know, see if you can make sense of this.

This is interesting.

I'm so curious about your reaction to all this.

One of the things we found in our early research is that some people choose to never get too high in emotion or too low.

And the reason why they don't get too high in emotion is they don't want to feel disappointment.

Yeah.

So they choose to live disappointed rather than feel disappointed.

You know, they choose just to think, eh, it's okay right now, but it'll be bad in a little bit.

Or this is nice now, but it'll turn soon.

And I just, I hearkened back to an interview with a man who was in his 70s.

And he and his wife were in an automobile accident and she was killed.

And he told me his greatest regret was never leaning into the great moments out of fear that they'd be taken away because now he had not accumulated those across his life.

It's a gut punch.

It's a gut punch, yeah.

And so I do think there's a vulnerability to giving over to

love, and joy that's real.

It could, for sure.

Good television, good film, good music brings me a ton of joy.

It gives me a feeling of inextricable human connection.