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The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

But we know from the research that if someone gets promoted or engaged or something really exciting happens, they're as or more likely to relapse.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

Really?

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

Yes.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

Because they're so overwhelmed by the positive emotion that

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

that they've also been numbing.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

And the community doesn't surround that person in that moment because there's not a hard time.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

So they're alone in these incredibly excruciatingly vulnerable feelings of joy, optimism, and gratitude, which they also don't have experience feeling.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

And so it can lead to relapse.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

I mean, to me, the hardest thing I've had to learn how to do was not grief or shame,

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

But joy, that's the hardest for me.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

Why?

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

Because I want to just rehearse tragedy when it happens.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

In our research, we call it foreboding joy.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

So when something good happens, I immediately feel this quiver of danger.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

This is going to be taken away from me.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

Something bad's going to happen to balance this out.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

I'm gonna get sucker punched by pain if I let my guard down.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

So I push away joy and that was the hardest part of my recovery.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

I can tell you this, in our research, we found that over 90% of parents, while feeling a very overwhelming love for their children, immediately pictured something terrible happening to their children.

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Sober AF, Michael Scott Phobia, and How to Politely End a Conversation

You're tucking a baby in at night.