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Bret Taylor

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

So we're essentially helping companies build their branded AI agent for all parts of their customer experience. The reason why I think this is a really exciting area for our customers and for me personally, is that I think we're in the era of conversational software.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

So we're essentially helping companies build their branded AI agent for all parts of their customer experience. The reason why I think this is a really exciting area for our customers and for me personally, is that I think we're in the era of conversational software.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

So we're essentially helping companies build their branded AI agent for all parts of their customer experience. The reason why I think this is a really exciting area for our customers and for me personally, is that I think we're in the era of conversational software.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

So I remember when in 2007, when when Steve Jobs announced this and I'm guessing you were 11 then based on our previous conversation. So you may not remember it as vividly as I do. I remember it well, Brad. OK, good. I remember this. That's good.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

So I remember when in 2007, when when Steve Jobs announced this and I'm guessing you were 11 then based on our previous conversation. So you may not remember it as vividly as I do. I remember it well, Brad. OK, good. I remember this. That's good.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

So I remember when in 2007, when when Steve Jobs announced this and I'm guessing you were 11 then based on our previous conversation. So you may not remember it as vividly as I do. I remember it well, Brad. OK, good. I remember this. That's good.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

Yeah, it was mind blowing. It really was. What's interesting though is in the corporate world, the dominant smartphone at the time was the Blackberry. And if you talk to anyone who had a Blackberry, they'd be like, there is no way I'm going to ever type on a touchscreen. The Blackberry keyboard is and was beloved. People still talk about how efficient they were with it.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

Yeah, it was mind blowing. It really was. What's interesting though is in the corporate world, the dominant smartphone at the time was the Blackberry. And if you talk to anyone who had a Blackberry, they'd be like, there is no way I'm going to ever type on a touchscreen. The Blackberry keyboard is and was beloved. People still talk about how efficient they were with it.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

Yeah, it was mind blowing. It really was. What's interesting though is in the corporate world, the dominant smartphone at the time was the Blackberry. And if you talk to anyone who had a Blackberry, they'd be like, there is no way I'm going to ever type on a touchscreen. The Blackberry keyboard is and was beloved. People still talk about how efficient they were with it.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

But you fast forward 10 years and 100% of those people had iPhones in their pocket. Why was that? The reason was the multi-touch interface in the iPhone, plus all the benefits afforded by having a big touchscreen from having a full featured web browser to be able to watch media.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

But you fast forward 10 years and 100% of those people had iPhones in their pocket. Why was that? The reason was the multi-touch interface in the iPhone, plus all the benefits afforded by having a big touchscreen from having a full featured web browser to be able to watch media.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

But you fast forward 10 years and 100% of those people had iPhones in their pocket. Why was that? The reason was the multi-touch interface in the iPhone, plus all the benefits afforded by having a big touchscreen from having a full featured web browser to be able to watch media.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

We crossed a quality threshold where it was actually effective enough relative to the BlackBerry keyboard that everyone said, this is just better. We're just going to adopt it. And now we have more smartphones in the world than people.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

We crossed a quality threshold where it was actually effective enough relative to the BlackBerry keyboard that everyone said, this is just better. We're just going to adopt it. And now we have more smartphones in the world than people.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

We crossed a quality threshold where it was actually effective enough relative to the BlackBerry keyboard that everyone said, this is just better. We're just going to adopt it. And now we have more smartphones in the world than people.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

And I think if you measure what percentage of human computer interactions are coming from smartphones, touchscreens today versus mice and keyboard, it's got to be 95% plus. I think with GPT-4, we crossed that quality threshold of effectiveness with conversational AI, meaning you can now have a conversation with a computer and it actually works. It understands nuance. It understands sarcasm.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

And I think if you measure what percentage of human computer interactions are coming from smartphones, touchscreens today versus mice and keyboard, it's got to be 95% plus. I think with GPT-4, we crossed that quality threshold of effectiveness with conversational AI, meaning you can now have a conversation with a computer and it actually works. It understands nuance. It understands sarcasm.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

And I think if you measure what percentage of human computer interactions are coming from smartphones, touchscreens today versus mice and keyboard, it's got to be 95% plus. I think with GPT-4, we crossed that quality threshold of effectiveness with conversational AI, meaning you can now have a conversation with a computer and it actually works. It understands nuance. It understands sarcasm.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

And as a consequence, if you fast forward four or five years, when you're interacting with any of the consumer brands you work with, your insurance company, your phone company, you will probably be having a conversation with an AI more than you'll be clicking around on a website or clicking around on an app.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Bret Taylor: The AI Bubble and What Happens Now | How the Cost of Chips and Models Will Change in AI | Will Companies Build Their Own Software | Why Pre-Training is for Morons | Leaderships Lessons from Mark Zuckerberg

And as a consequence, if you fast forward four or five years, when you're interacting with any of the consumer brands you work with, your insurance company, your phone company, you will probably be having a conversation with an AI more than you'll be clicking around on a website or clicking around on an app.