Bret Weinstein

They're taking advantage of it for tourism like Virginia and Brazil. The entire town saw this thing. So, you know, I'm not sure if it's all bullshit. I think there's some bullshit mixed in with some real stuff. That's what I think. This is my conclusion over time. Because if you go back to like the Kenneth Arnold sightings in the 1950s, we didn't have anything that moved like that. Nobody did.

There's no way anybody had anything in the 1950s that could shoot across the sky soundless, make no noise, skip like flying saucers is the way they described it. There was a – I think there was nine of them together. We didn't have anything like that. So maybe occasionally we're visited. Maybe occasionally they show themselves. And maybe they have been here.

Tucker thinks they've been here all along. He thinks they're a part of this world that we live in. They hide from us. Maybe they live in the ocean.

Right. If they had some sort of a drone that used gravity and could zip across the sky like 10x light speed, they wouldn't tell you about it.

So you think the radar... When they use radar and they find these things, what do you think that is?

So you could force a blip onto someone's radar? Sure. You could hack their radar?

Well, let's talk about the David Fravor one, right? Because this is 2004, so it kind of limits our ability in terms of... You know, you have high technology, you have extremely powerful computers, you have a lot of stuff going on, but... We certainly don't have what we have 20 years later, right? Yep. We all agree to that.

Now, they have multiple different mediums, multiple different types of evidence. They have visual eyewitness testimony, and more than one jet sees this thing. More than one pilot sees this thing. They all have the same story. This thing zips across the sky. They have the radar that shows that this thing went from 50,000 feet above sea level to 50 in a second. Mm-hmm.

They have this thing moving at speeds on video where you see it move on video that would turn anybody inside it into jello. Yep. So it's whatever the fuck this is, it's doing something that we didn't think human beings could do. Yeah. Right. So you have three different ways of verifying that there is something there. You have the radar. You have video. You have eyewitness testimony.

You have this thing flying to the cat point where they were initially supposed to, when they were doing their training mission, they were supposed to meet.

There's a lot of weird shit with that.

But do you think they could fake that?

So how would you fake a visual sighting from trained fighter jet pilots over the ocean?

A projection. Yeah. And where would the projector be?

And how would you do that? What technology would enable you to make something? I mean, they even had a disturbance of the ocean floor or of the ocean surface rather.

Of course. Yeah, of course.

So this would explain why these things are able to stay stationary in 120 knot winds because they're not affected by physical reality. Yeah. They're just images.

Have you seen any of Gary Nolan's stuff on the metallurgy, on the different samples they've collected from these supposed down crafts that defy our understanding of how to create alloys and how expensive it would be to craft these things?

Well, it's certainly discussions.

Right. I mean, I don't know who... See if you can find anything on Gary Nolan's samples. So Diana Pasolko, who had been on the podcast before, she had done some excavating of these areas where they purport that these things had crashed and they could still find pieces, which made me a little skeptical. As soon as I see you can still find – you didn't pick them all up? Yeah.