Brian Barrett

It's also people who've kind of washed out or not been able to get in and who are disappointed and feel like,

They failed in some way.

So there's emotional labor that goes with that, along with the sort of actual literal labor that goes along with, you know, when they're working long hours.

How endemic does that feel at this point?

That's sort of just, you know, the many ways that people have to deal with this.

I'm Brian Barrett, Executive Editor.

Also happening this week, President Trump is headed to China.

He's accompanied by a select number of Silicon Valley's top CEOs.

We'll discuss how their presence could influence conversations between world leaders at a moment when the economic and foreign policy stakes could not be higher for the U.S.

No, that's right.

Yeah, there's been a parade of people.

And also text messages from the, like, I think a fun part about trials and the legal process is that there's the discovery process, which means that you get to read all kinds of emails and texts.

The most fun.

From when bad things are happening.

May it never happen to any of us.

But there was a very crowded time.

I believe, Zoe, correct me here, it was...

Opening eyes, Sam Altman had texted Mira Marotti about how things were going around the time of the lip.

And she wrote back that it was directionally very bad.

It was just a few weeks ago that OpenAI published their sort of like, here's how we think the future economic systems need to work and future policy.