Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search Is Over; AI Gets Booed by Graduates
episodePreviously titled “Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 4, 2026
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Welcome to Wired's Uncanny Valley. I'm Zoe Schiffer, Director of Business and Industry.
I'm Brian Barrett, Executive Editor.
And I'm Leah Feiger, Director of Politics and Science.
And we're all in the same room. Oh my gosh!
For the first time.
Same room.
Brian got invited to the group chat. He did. Look at that. Today on the show, we're discussing the complete meltdown over mass layoffs at Meta. We spoke to more than a dozen employees, and it turns out the job cuts are far from the only reason why Meta employees are really going through it.
And of course, we wouldn't skip the Elon Musk verdict. He lost his lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI in really as full a way as you can, as dramatically as possible. I know, Zoe, you're looking forward to talking about that. And I'm looking forward to talking about Google's annual developer conference, I.O., where it debuted some dramatic changes to search.
And you might have seen that Google's former CEO, Eric Schmidt, recently got booed by graduating students after he praised AI in a commencement speech.
What are the reasons behind Meta's recent layoffs?
We're gonna get into why young adults might be using AI, but they have very complicated feelings about it. And later in the show, we're gonna hear about why women married to AI bros have had enough.
So first up, let's dive into what is happening at Meta. This week, the company is letting go of roughly 10% of its workforce, which is about 8,000 employees total. It's the latest round of job cuts, adding to the roughly 25,000 jobs that have been cut in the past few years as part of Mark Zuckerberg's kind of year of efficiency that started in 2023, and now the latest AI forward workplace, which he is trying to develop and impose. And while these latest cuts are not as big as some of the rounds of layoffs that have already happened, they're getting a ton of attention because Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO, has said that the reason they're happening, in part at least, in large part, is because the company is spending so much money on AI and data centers.
So we record this on a Tuesday, but the reason we're able to talk so fully about this, constantly about this, is because Meta announced this a while ago.
Oh, yeah. They didn't announce it.
The news leaked. The news leaked, but then they acknowledged it.
Weeks and weeks later.
Yes, but still, it's been a long time. It's been a long time. That this has been out in the open, which has resulted in, I think, a little bit of chaos time inside of Meta because you've got like a, what, a one in 10 chance of not having your job anymore.
Yeah.
How is Elon Musk's lawsuit against OpenAI related to AI's impact?
It's, I mean, suffice to say, impacting morale in really horrific ways. But it's not the only thing. Like we said, Mark Zuckerberg is also really encouraging employees to use AI. There have been all of these changes internally to that end. Some people really like it and are adopting it. Some people are really pushing back on it. But I think for a lot of employees who joined Meta during this era of, like, endless perks, lots of job security, kind of like a – pillar atmosphere compared to some of the other startups in the Valley.
Rest and vest.
What major changes were announced at Google's annual developer conference?
They had that going for a while.
I mean, kind of.
It wasn't full Google, but I feel like it was somewhat there. It had that vibe. I think, to me, someone so on the outside of this in every single way, I know about these layoffs because they've been, A, so chaotic, but B, in some ways, needlessly so. Not to say that other tech companies aren't firing scores of workers all the time. That feels like something we discuss on this podcast forever.
Why are recent graduates expressing frustration with AI?
But this is happening with such a large runway and in a way that's making employees feel so terrible about themselves.
Well, because it's not just the layoffs, right? It's also even if you stay there, if you're not culled from the herd, you are going to have to deal with this world in which you've got spyware on your laptops. Oh, yeah. Training AI to probably take your job at some point, right? I mean, explain that a little bit. So they announced, Meta announced, and this was more public, that they were going to put software on employee laptops that would monitor their keystrokes and how they move their cursors and basically how they do their job as Meta engineers and use that as training data for their own internal models to try to make their AI models better because they're running out of other sources.
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Chapters
7 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–1:01
2
What are the reasons behind Meta's recent layoffs?
1:01–2:35
3
How is Elon Musk's lawsuit against OpenAI related to AI's impact?
2:35–3:05
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What major changes were announced at Google's annual developer conference?
3:05–3:28
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Why are recent graduates expressing frustration with AI?
3:28–4:59
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How is AI affecting employee morale at Meta?
4:59–14:30
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What are the implications of AI on job security and workplace dynamics?
14:30–41:02
Speakers
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