Brian Barrett

Which, just to clarify, the jury decision was only one step.

We needed the judge to also make their own determination, which happened almost immediately.

No.

I also should say, to no one's surprise, Elon Musk is going to appeal or says he's going to appeal.

He does have infinite money to do this.

Yeah.

He also unsurprisingly posted about it on X, saying of the judge, she just handed out a free license to loot charities if you can keep the looting quiet for a few years.

I do think that to your point about this was also a trial in the court of public opinion, right?

A lot of this was trying to, like, embarrass the opponent.

But it was just a mud fight where everybody got dirty, right?

Nobody came out of this looking great.

Nobody came out of this.

I don't think anyone changed anybody's minds about, oh, no, you should be entrusted with the future of this, like, powerful technology.

Rambunctious.

I'm about to be the most hated man on this podcast.

Because, and I don't know why this was contentious.

I'm genuinely baffled.

So, again, we're recording this on Tuesday.

Google had its I.O.

conference.