Brian Batko

And he's interesting.

I do think Shula is very appealing in that way, too.

He's a guy that when you watch him talk defensive football and you watch him talk about culture setting, he also has a way of...

talking about football that I think is going to command a room.

You know, he has his own little quips and sayings.

You know, if you, there, there's enough video out there, Chris Shula, not, you know, not just at a press conference.

If you just hear coaching clinic, he talks at, he talks about, you know, relentless pursuit of football, violence, violence,

He talks about getting turnovers.

It's very Steelers-y in the way he talks about football, and he does command the room in that way.

But if you're asking me of the candidates they've interviewed right now, of the guys that I know about, the one guy that I think is going to command a room more than anyone else as a leader or CEO type, it would be Anthony Weaver.

Well, I mentioned him earlier.

I think Udinski from Jacksonville is a name that I would bring in at least.

I can see Sean McDermott being a guy that you would bring in.

I'm just not sure he's perfect for the Steelers' drive right now.

We're kind of talking about a guy that failed to get over the hump where he was at with Josh Allen.

And so you're kind of just speed running back the Tomlin stuff there.

You need a culture builder.

I think McDermott's a great hire.

I don't think the Steelers need a culture builder, though.

I think they need someone –