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Brian Chesky

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

This is not like an advertising platform where the product and the business model are pretty separate from an aligned interest standpoint. They're completely connected. So you can start to see a bad Airbnb, people then don't rebook on Airbnb, they don't come back. So it's a really clear economic incentive. And the last thing is Airbnbs are just not that politicized.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

This is not like an advertising platform where the product and the business model are pretty separate from an aligned interest standpoint. They're completely connected. So you can start to see a bad Airbnb, people then don't rebook on Airbnb, they don't come back. So it's a really clear economic incentive. And the last thing is Airbnbs are just not that politicized.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

This is not like an advertising platform where the product and the business model are pretty separate from an aligned interest standpoint. They're completely connected. So you can start to see a bad Airbnb, people then don't rebook on Airbnb, they don't come back. So it's a really clear economic incentive. And the last thing is Airbnbs are just not that politicized.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

Like people just want to have good vacations. And so you don't have the like kind of myriad of political issues and baggage. I think when it comes to platforms like Twitter or X, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok. It's not clear what the customer is asking for. I think in the one hand, customers, you know, users want veracity of information.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

Like people just want to have good vacations. And so you don't have the like kind of myriad of political issues and baggage. I think when it comes to platforms like Twitter or X, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok. It's not clear what the customer is asking for. I think in the one hand, customers, you know, users want veracity of information.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

Like people just want to have good vacations. And so you don't have the like kind of myriad of political issues and baggage. I think when it comes to platforms like Twitter or X, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok. It's not clear what the customer is asking for. I think in the one hand, customers, you know, users want veracity of information.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

But the other hand, I think they're very skeptical of the hand that platforms are putting on the product, and they're not in our case. But I do think that we're going to look back in history and And the platforms in the future that are gonna be most successful are gonna be the ones that have the greatest truth and veracity of information.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

But the other hand, I think they're very skeptical of the hand that platforms are putting on the product, and they're not in our case. But I do think that we're going to look back in history and And the platforms in the future that are gonna be most successful are gonna be the ones that have the greatest truth and veracity of information.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

But the other hand, I think they're very skeptical of the hand that platforms are putting on the product, and they're not in our case. But I do think that we're going to look back in history and And the platforms in the future that are gonna be most successful are gonna be the ones that have the greatest truth and veracity of information.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

And veracity of information starts with, are these people real? Are they not real? I remember emailing Elon when he first acquired Twitter. And I gave unsolicited advice, which was that you should verify 100% of the users on Twitter. They decided not to do that. And I didn't even really have a conversation. They did almost the opposite, actually. But I would have done that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

And veracity of information starts with, are these people real? Are they not real? I remember emailing Elon when he first acquired Twitter. And I gave unsolicited advice, which was that you should verify 100% of the users on Twitter. They decided not to do that. And I didn't even really have a conversation. They did almost the opposite, actually. But I would have done that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

And veracity of information starts with, are these people real? Are they not real? I remember emailing Elon when he first acquired Twitter. And I gave unsolicited advice, which was that you should verify 100% of the users on Twitter. They decided not to do that. And I didn't even really have a conversation. They did almost the opposite, actually. But I would have done that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

And I would have done that. And then maybe you do. Yeah, I would have verified 100% of the users. I still think a platform that verifies every single person, it's a really, really good idea. And that's what we do right now.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

And I would have done that. And then maybe you do. Yeah, I would have verified 100% of the users. I still think a platform that verifies every single person, it's a really, really good idea. And that's what we do right now.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

And I would have done that. And then maybe you do. Yeah, I would have verified 100% of the users. I still think a platform that verifies every single person, it's a really, really good idea. And that's what we do right now.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

Now, there might be reasons not to verify, like you just want to, I don't know, maybe people are nervous about verification if they can't be whistleblowers on platforms. But again, a lot of the reason people don't want moderation is they distrust moderation.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

Now, there might be reasons not to verify, like you just want to, I don't know, maybe people are nervous about verification if they can't be whistleblowers on platforms. But again, a lot of the reason people don't want moderation is they distrust moderation.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

Now, there might be reasons not to verify, like you just want to, I don't know, maybe people are nervous about verification if they can't be whistleblowers on platforms. But again, a lot of the reason people don't want moderation is they distrust moderation.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

the companies and they believe the companies are politically motivated and they're putting their thumb on the scale politically for free speech this becomes like an attack vector for politics i think before you moderate content you should moderate people you should moderate not should they be kicked off the site or on the site but just are these real people are they who they say they are and are they allowed to use pseudonyms or not i think in the speech context there's a

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means

the companies and they believe the companies are politically motivated and they're putting their thumb on the scale politically for free speech this becomes like an attack vector for politics i think before you moderate content you should moderate people you should moderate not should they be kicked off the site or on the site but just are these real people are they who they say they are and are they allowed to use pseudonyms or not i think in the speech context there's a