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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
It's kind of like don't renovate the whole house, pick one room and make it perfect and then go room to room.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
So I really told teams like, hey, I actually didn't replace the team.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
I took the team that was already working.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
I handpicked some people on the team, but I really just taught them the pace and I would review work very regularly.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
So I'd sometimes review the work weekly or even daily.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
to just teach them a level of intensity, a level of perfection, and it was unfamiliar and uncomfortable, and I will tell you that not everyone liked it, and some people didn't stick around the company because they didn't like that way of working, but those who stuck around, and the vast majority did, they realized, wow, actually, when the CEO is involved, it's actually easier, there's less bureaucracy, I try to make the work better,
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
And I try to clear all obstacles.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
And so I basically did that group by group.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
And the great thing is like, I was in massive number of details, reviewing everything for years, but eventually it's like muscle memory.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
It's like, I don't know, an instructor or a coach
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
You have to teach them, but once they learn and they have the muscle memory, like a golf swing, you can step back and now it's muscle memory.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
So now I don't have to be in all these details, all these teams, but I would just say a couple things to people listening.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
Great leadership is presence, not absence.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
I think a generation of management consulting or management school, management teaching, taught us that CEOs
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
should trust their people and get out of the way, and I don't think trust and getting out of the way are the same thing.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
Again, I think leadership is presence, and you should actually be partnering with your people.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
You should be on the field with them.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
If you're a cavalry general, you should be on a horse.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
You should be on the battlefield.
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Intel & Apple, The American Economic Rollercoaster | Brian Chesky, Josh Reeves, Jonathan Neman, Zal Bilimoria
You're not overseas somewhere else just writing out blueprints.