Brian Fitzgibbons

that the residential trash would be going.

Yeah, there was a span of, I believe it was 24 to 48 hours where that scene was not held, initially released.

You had DoorDash drivers walking up to the front, journalists, and you'll even notice, Nancy, in that photo, the foliage that the porch suspect used is still lying on the ground.

That wasn't even collected initially as evidence.

It's still lying there on the ground.

So, you know, what evidentiary value and core to those rocks?

I don't know.

I agree.

It was missing two essential things, proprietary information and proof of life.

Those are two things that in a typical kidnap and ransom case will immediately be delivered.

The second thing is it wasn't delivered to the family, right?

This went to a media outlet.

So of course the family and law enforcement had to take this very seriously at the time.

But I think as we sit here, you know, on day 48,

It's pretty clear that these were not authentic.

Yeah, absolutely.

And it's important to understand that where Nikki was last seen and where her vehicle was located is a couple miles north of any real population.

So you're spot on.

This is a very, very remote rural area, farmland, country roads.

And what does this tell us?