Brian Gerkey

How am I going to ensure a high quality result?

And we've tended to separate those two people in personas and say, well, the second one, they're not in a position to change how the robot behaves because you need to be an engineer to do that.

Well, with if we make the software more capable and we start to take advantage of some of the generative AI techniques, maybe that person can change the behavior of the robot.

Maybe that's something where like you're like you instead of thinking about yourself as an operator, I don't know, you

To very loosely borrow the term, maybe you become a creator of a sort.

And you take your on-the-job process knowledge skills and you use it to prompt or whatever the right interface is to the robot to get it to change its behavior to help you do your job in a better way.

And so I think that line becomes a little bit blurry between are you like one of the –

you know, trained engineers who's allowed to change the system versus a user.

Maybe the users are now effectively developers.

That's the hope.

And, you know, I think where we are right now is just what I want to see from us, but also from all the other, our kind of peer companies out in this space is let's get more and more systems out into production.

I have one of my colleagues actually had a T-shirt made for me that just says deployments, deployments, deployments.

I'm known to be kind of dogmatic about saying, okay, that's an awesome demo.

I love that.

How do we get that deployed to a customer?

For me, that's where you prove the value of what you've built.

The value manifests itself when there's an end customer, which for us, again, there are lots of applications for robots.

For us, we're focused on manufacturing.

So our end customers, they've got factories and they've got work to be done.

There are jobs to run, there are widgets to make.