Brian Greene

Yeah.

Yeah, wow, if there's a weird cut in the podcast, it's because all of the sudden the power popped.

It just like popped, went off, popped again, and then went off, and then popped a third time, and then went off for a few seconds, and then turned back on, which is really strange.

But they're doing construction on the highway down, or the road down the street, and I think they might be moving the power poles.

Anyway, we're back.

I was talking about Marc Maron and I was talking about the charts.

Listen, Marc, regardless of where Marc sits on the charts or where he has been sitting on the charts, I think it's clear to any observer, casual or otherwise, that Marc Maron has had a huge impact on the podcast industry.

And I think he was one of the first to have commercials, if I'm not mistaken.

I think like Dollar Shave Club or whatever was one of the first.

I don't know this for sure, but I do remember listening to early Mark Maron podcasts and hearing commercials in there and thinking to myself, wow, he's selling commercials.

Even though like I didn't really get into podcasting until much later after the, it had started.

Like I really didn't jump on the bandwagon until cereal.

Um,

When Serial came on, I started listening to Marc Maron's podcast and I was like, wow, that's great commercials.

Can you do that for a living?

Because if you can do that for a living in 10 years from now, I am also going to do that for a living.

So anyway, Marc Maron gets all the props he should rightfully get for really turning this into an art form, a radio show, a late-night TV talk show, a place where people can come and sit and have long, in-depth conversations that are meaningful and change the world.

The exact opposite of what we do here at The Commercial Break.

I didn't say we were going to take Marc Maron's thing and make it better.

But maybe, listen, not to dance on anybody's grave, Chrissy, but maybe there's a small chance that we will get some of those Marc Maron listeners.