Brian Hayes

Not to mention, too, it's a smaller roster, Luke, and the other thing.

You may not like the coach, but you respect him a ton.

I've had some pretty hardened coaches, right?

I had Al Arbor, a legendary coach.

I've had Mike Keenan.

I've had Joel Quinville.

I've had Daryl Sutter.

These are guys who are known to be – can press buttons.

And at that time, you may not love them, but you certainly respect them, and they're trying to get you going and show you a direction.

But I don't think it was ever F you in the face type of thing.

It was more like, yeah, zip it.

I hear you.

I hear you type of thing when the guy's chirping at you.

And he's probably rightfully chirping at you because you're probably playing terrible or out to lunch type of thing.

So I think it's different in football.

That's right.

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Obviously, with the media attention and the fan support that they have in Toronto, things are blowing way out of proportion up there.

But yeah, they definitely don't think that in the room.

What are they, four points out of a playoff spot?