Brian Klaas

Yeah, so I'll talk about 9-11 briefly and then the Bin Laden raid. I mean, I think one of the stories I have in Fluke is a really moving personal story of a man who went to a conference that was supposed to be held in the World Trade Center on 9-11. And his colleague gave him the gift of a new tie on the morning of the conference as a sort of token of appreciation or whatever.

Yeah, so I'll talk about 9-11 briefly and then the Bin Laden raid. I mean, I think one of the stories I have in Fluke is a really moving personal story of a man who went to a conference that was supposed to be held in the World Trade Center on 9-11. And his colleague gave him the gift of a new tie on the morning of the conference as a sort of token of appreciation or whatever.

Yeah, so I'll talk about 9-11 briefly and then the Bin Laden raid. I mean, I think one of the stories I have in Fluke is a really moving personal story of a man who went to a conference that was supposed to be held in the World Trade Center on 9-11. And his colleague gave him the gift of a new tie on the morning of the conference as a sort of token of appreciation or whatever.

And the tie didn't match his shirt that he was wearing. So he went back to iron the shirt. And when he went back to iron the shirt, she went up to the conference and was killed when the first plane hit the World Trade Center. And he survived and she didn't. So her act of kindness is what caused her to die, unfortunately, is very, very sad.

And the tie didn't match his shirt that he was wearing. So he went back to iron the shirt. And when he went back to iron the shirt, she went up to the conference and was killed when the first plane hit the World Trade Center. And he survived and she didn't. So her act of kindness is what caused her to die, unfortunately, is very, very sad.

And the tie didn't match his shirt that he was wearing. So he went back to iron the shirt. And when he went back to iron the shirt, she went up to the conference and was killed when the first plane hit the World Trade Center. And he survived and she didn't. So her act of kindness is what caused her to die, unfortunately, is very, very sad.

And one of the things I just wanted to talk briefly about the philosophy of the history that you get from a story like that.

And one of the things I just wanted to talk briefly about the philosophy of the history that you get from a story like that.

And one of the things I just wanted to talk briefly about the philosophy of the history that you get from a story like that.

is that what he really got upset about when I talked to him, his name's Joseph Lott, and when I talked to him about this, what he said is that everybody told him the same thing, which was that everything happens for a reason, as though there was this grand plan to why he was supposed to survive and she was supposed to die, which put so much pressure on him, right?

is that what he really got upset about when I talked to him, his name's Joseph Lott, and when I talked to him about this, what he said is that everybody told him the same thing, which was that everything happens for a reason, as though there was this grand plan to why he was supposed to survive and she was supposed to die, which put so much pressure on him, right?

is that what he really got upset about when I talked to him, his name's Joseph Lott, and when I talked to him about this, what he said is that everybody told him the same thing, which was that everything happens for a reason, as though there was this grand plan to why he was supposed to survive and she was supposed to die, which put so much pressure on him, right?

This idea that there was some preordained plan. And so this is where I think the sort of aspects of how we tell history matter, because if you emphasize some of the accidents... then there's some things that just happen. They're not just. They're not morally valuable. It's just sometimes you give a gift of a tie and you die.

This idea that there was some preordained plan. And so this is where I think the sort of aspects of how we tell history matter, because if you emphasize some of the accidents... then there's some things that just happen. They're not just. They're not morally valuable. It's just sometimes you give a gift of a tie and you die.

This idea that there was some preordained plan. And so this is where I think the sort of aspects of how we tell history matter, because if you emphasize some of the accidents... then there's some things that just happen. They're not just. They're not morally valuable. It's just sometimes you give a gift of a tie and you die.

And history works the same way sometimes, where sometimes the bad guys win, and it's not because they were righteous. It's because of accidents, right? There's a point around 9-11 that also illustrates, I think, that broader lesson of history.

And history works the same way sometimes, where sometimes the bad guys win, and it's not because they were righteous. It's because of accidents, right? There's a point around 9-11 that also illustrates, I think, that broader lesson of history.

And history works the same way sometimes, where sometimes the bad guys win, and it's not because they were righteous. It's because of accidents, right? There's a point around 9-11 that also illustrates, I think, that broader lesson of history.

Now, with the bin Laden raid, of course, one of the points I make is that you're trying to navigate what's called radical uncertainty, which is where you have no idea. I mean, nobody in America knew whether bin Laden was in that house, right? They had a guess. The CIA had sort of made an analysis and they said, you know, there's a person there that we think might be bin Laden. But we don't know.

Now, with the bin Laden raid, of course, one of the points I make is that you're trying to navigate what's called radical uncertainty, which is where you have no idea. I mean, nobody in America knew whether bin Laden was in that house, right? They had a guess. The CIA had sort of made an analysis and they said, you know, there's a person there that we think might be bin Laden. But we don't know.