Brian Klaas

is that what he really got upset about when I talked to him, his name's Joseph Lott, and when I talked to him about this, what he said is that everybody told him the same thing, which was that everything happens for a reason, as though there was this grand plan to why he was supposed to survive and she was supposed to die, which put so much pressure on him, right?

is that what he really got upset about when I talked to him, his name's Joseph Lott, and when I talked to him about this, what he said is that everybody told him the same thing, which was that everything happens for a reason, as though there was this grand plan to why he was supposed to survive and she was supposed to die, which put so much pressure on him, right?

is that what he really got upset about when I talked to him, his name's Joseph Lott, and when I talked to him about this, what he said is that everybody told him the same thing, which was that everything happens for a reason, as though there was this grand plan to why he was supposed to survive and she was supposed to die, which put so much pressure on him, right?

This idea that there was some preordained plan. And so this is where I think the sort of aspects of how we tell history matter, because if you emphasize some of the accidents... then there's some things that just happen. They're not just. They're not morally valuable. It's just sometimes you give a gift of a tie and you die.

This idea that there was some preordained plan. And so this is where I think the sort of aspects of how we tell history matter, because if you emphasize some of the accidents... then there's some things that just happen. They're not just. They're not morally valuable. It's just sometimes you give a gift of a tie and you die.

This idea that there was some preordained plan. And so this is where I think the sort of aspects of how we tell history matter, because if you emphasize some of the accidents... then there's some things that just happen. They're not just. They're not morally valuable. It's just sometimes you give a gift of a tie and you die.

And history works the same way sometimes, where sometimes the bad guys win, and it's not because they were righteous. It's because of accidents, right? There's a point around 9-11 that also illustrates, I think, that broader lesson of history.

And history works the same way sometimes, where sometimes the bad guys win, and it's not because they were righteous. It's because of accidents, right? There's a point around 9-11 that also illustrates, I think, that broader lesson of history.

And history works the same way sometimes, where sometimes the bad guys win, and it's not because they were righteous. It's because of accidents, right? There's a point around 9-11 that also illustrates, I think, that broader lesson of history.

Now, with the bin Laden raid, of course, one of the points I make is that you're trying to navigate what's called radical uncertainty, which is where you have no idea. I mean, nobody in America knew whether bin Laden was in that house, right? They had a guess. The CIA had sort of made an analysis and they said, you know, there's a person there that we think might be bin Laden. But we don't know.

Now, with the bin Laden raid, of course, one of the points I make is that you're trying to navigate what's called radical uncertainty, which is where you have no idea. I mean, nobody in America knew whether bin Laden was in that house, right? They had a guess. The CIA had sort of made an analysis and they said, you know, there's a person there that we think might be bin Laden. But we don't know.

Now, with the bin Laden raid, of course, one of the points I make is that you're trying to navigate what's called radical uncertainty, which is where you have no idea. I mean, nobody in America knew whether bin Laden was in that house, right? They had a guess. The CIA had sort of made an analysis and they said, you know, there's a person there that we think might be bin Laden. But we don't know.

You know, this is one of the things that's really extraordinary about this moment in American history is that that night was so incredibly consequential in several different ways. One is that Obama goes to the White House Correspondents Dinner, which is basically where the president tells jokes. They do sort of stand up.

You know, this is one of the things that's really extraordinary about this moment in American history is that that night was so incredibly consequential in several different ways. One is that Obama goes to the White House Correspondents Dinner, which is basically where the president tells jokes. They do sort of stand up.

You know, this is one of the things that's really extraordinary about this moment in American history is that that night was so incredibly consequential in several different ways. One is that Obama goes to the White House Correspondents Dinner, which is basically where the president tells jokes. They do sort of stand up.

And he has ordered in the Situation Room all the preparations to be made for this raid. And after he does stand up, he goes back to the Situation Room and watches them kill Osama bin Laden a few hours later. Extraordinary amounts of sort of steel nerves to tell jokes when you're gambling your presidency.

And he has ordered in the Situation Room all the preparations to be made for this raid. And after he does stand up, he goes back to the Situation Room and watches them kill Osama bin Laden a few hours later. Extraordinary amounts of sort of steel nerves to tell jokes when you're gambling your presidency.

And he has ordered in the Situation Room all the preparations to be made for this raid. And after he does stand up, he goes back to the Situation Room and watches them kill Osama bin Laden a few hours later. Extraordinary amounts of sort of steel nerves to tell jokes when you're gambling your presidency.

There's some confidence of Trump that say that that was the night he decided to run for president and wanted to contest for the 2016 election. So, you know, whether that's true or not, we'll never know. But it's one of these intriguing aspects of history. We have Obama gambling his presidency. as he's telling jokes, maybe inspiring Donald Trump to enter the political fray.

There's some confidence of Trump that say that that was the night he decided to run for president and wanted to contest for the 2016 election. So, you know, whether that's true or not, we'll never know. But it's one of these intriguing aspects of history. We have Obama gambling his presidency. as he's telling jokes, maybe inspiring Donald Trump to enter the political fray.