Brian Koppelman

It was that I was lucky enough to be in a position to see her.

And I was lucky enough to have both enough experience and more importantly, enough innocence that I jumped in fully and made it like my life's work at that time.

I got to talk to her after the Luke Combs Grammy thing.

She and I spoke for a half hour and it was really beautiful because we got to revisit those early days and just talk about how miraculous and heartwarming it is that the music still has this level of impact on people.

I played poker.

I've always played.

Yeah, I've played poker since I was eight years old.

Well, yeah, it's funny.

I just had dinner with a guy who was, when I was at Harvard then, and I was talking about going to, yeah, you know, Harvard, like in that social network, you know, they have those things like final clubs.

And I would go, I knew some kids who were there.

And I would go to like one of these final clubs and play poker.

And there's nothing better than taking a Harvard guy's money at a poker table.

I mean, you just feel like you're doing the Lord's work, even though you're gambling.

And even if you don't believe in the Lord, all of it.

But it was great.

And then, yeah, that moment, Levine and I put that moment in Rounders.

We made it Princeton because...

He was in a jail in New Jersey and coming back to New York, so they wouldn't really divert on their trip up to Boston.

But Princeton and those dining clubs, the same thing, are close enough.

It felt like the whole idea was just Ivy League douches.