Brian Koppelman

And you want to think they're both good faith actors.

And so how do two good faith actors get so... What if the answer is just...

I see there's some benefits to the Turkish getup.

It might be good to add something else in too.

Yeah.

Like, you know, also if you're putting something heavy in your hand and you're trying to stand up, anyway, there's benefit.

But if you're looking to, you know, build bolder shoulders, there might be something better.

But it seems like in that space, everybody should always just say, look, if you're doing something hard, it's physically hard and taxing and you're trying to improve it.

It's a net good.

Now within that,

we can iterate a little bit and make it slightly more effective.

But I guess that doesn't sell enough books, right?

I just did a really deep dive, and we don't have to get lost in this, but I know this is something you know about, but I did a really deep dive on how in 1947 the partition happened in India and Pakistan and about the three-way tribal wars that happened there.

and honestly it gives you an insight into why over something like kettlebells because i've noticed these wars online about this people just running other people down cursing them out like screaming online and uh it's like it seems very important i'm curious how you because it in in what you write about it is controversial right

It seems like people in the fitness and wellness space spend a lot of time trying to tell other people why they're wrong instead of trying to just find the best answer for themselves and sharing it with a positive spin.

I mean, have you thought about that at all?

One of the best things about being, even this happened when I turned 50.

So 10 years ago.

I became so much more comfortable saying, I don't know.

And I say that, something I've said online and I say it's like,