Brian Koppelman

there's so much that there's no good answer for.

So you just try your best within that to make the micro good answers, good decisions.

Well, I'm thinking, you know, you and I went and we took a walk together and went and worked out.

And we were doing, we were next to each other in squat cages doing entirely different workouts.

And now all we did was engage with curiosity.

Why are you doing that?

Oh, cool.

Are you doing that?

That's interesting.

Like, there was no, there was not a moment in real life where one of us was like,

Oh, dude, why are you doing... I didn't say to you, why are you doing Zurchers?

That's so dumb.

You should do... And you didn't turn to me and go...

back squats, you're still doing back squats?

And it's just like, no, like you were happy that I was putting in hard work and were standing ready to spot me if I needed help.

And the same with me to you.

And it was like, that's the way in real life, people who are engaged in just trying to improve themselves and their friends are.

But somehow when it gets one ring beyond that in the public sphere, it turns dark really quickly.

Yeah, I should say all of this is with my lifelong best friend and creative partner, David Levine.

14, 14 and 15, yeah.