Brian Koppelman

But take the bad faith actors out of it.

I think a lot of good faith people

are so used to being in a posture where they have to be angry, determined, hold the line for their position in the world, that they think that's the same exact thing about where your hand should be in a fucking lat pulldown.

when the truth is you're going to get a lot of benefit if your hands are wide on a lat pulldown.

If you lean back a little bit, you'll get some benefit.

If you don't lean back, you'll get some benefit.

Hell, if you supinate your hands, you'll get some benefit.

And we're in a world now where nobody can acknowledge that.

Oh, it really does.

I mean, I love those things.

They keep me sharp.

And also, I just have always... I mean, it's part of why I became...

storyteller, right?

I'm fascinated by... Sometimes I'll walk around with headphones because I want to hear a podcast or I want to listen to music.

But I make it a point every day for at least a good period of time when I'm walking around to be listening.

Really to be listening to my own voice mostly, right?

I'm just walking around thinking.

I'm not trying to like overhear.

But if you're in your environment and you're alert...

I'll just hear a sentence or a tone of, often it's like, I'll just hear like a certain tone and somebody talking to their phone or a friend and I'll just slow down and listen.