Brian Koppelman

And when it catches fire, then you got to go the whole way.

But like, you know, and sometimes you'll go down a deep... Like, especially I love learning about things that are far away from my own experience.

So lately I've been...

Like I read both of Cam Haines' books and I watched a bunch of that stuff.

And maybe all of that knowledge will end up just being like two lines in an episode of my next show.

But it's worth it because those two lines will have the quality of experience behind them.

You won't know that watching it.

You'll just know that seems legit.

But the reason it'll seem legit is like, I don't know, I spent 50 hours to find those two lines and so did Dave.

And then sometimes that'll turn into, no, that'll be the next 80 episodes I make will be all about the thing that I just studied.

I don't know.

I just follow my curiosity till the end of it.

And I love learning about people like, you know, Cameron Haynes, his belief system, his family life, his childhood experience, how he spends his time.

They're all so foreign to me.

It's like, we're in a different species almost, but you know what closes that gap is like actually learning about somebody is actually understanding the way they think.

And then it's like, no, no, no, no.

We're completely the same.

Not only are we the same species, but if we sat next to each other without any flags or anybody talking about,

politics and we just ran into each other on a trail or we ran into each other somewhere.

And I was in, you know, I was caught up in a bush and he needed to like, let, you know, let me out because I was, he would do it and I would thank him and I'd go get him a beer.