Brian Levine

Most of their emails were PGP encrypted, right?

And Ryan explained to me, because I believe the FBI can do anything if they want to.

So Ryan explained to me the PGP stands for pretty good.

Pretty good privacy.

Pretty good privacy.

And so I said, Ryan, it's only pretty good.

Could you get through that encryption?

And Ryan said, no, you're not putting the right emphasis.

It's pretty good privacy.

That's it.

You shouldn't be interpreting that.

The challenge that we had was there's all this encrypted traffic.

We think we have the three guys, but we can't get any substantive evidence connecting any one of them specifically other than the first mistake to the scheme.

And that's when we found out that one of the other two had decided to travel to Miami, to the United States.

And this could only be because after 10 years of committing this scheme and nobody knocking on their doors, they felt like they were pretty secure at this point.

They had really amazing OPSEC, as Ryan mentioned.

And this particular guy, whose name was DeBayou Dinette,

had competed in international programming competitions, and had even had an internship at Google in the U.S.

before he switched over to crime.

So he had friends in the U.S., and we got advanced intelligence was going to come to the U.S.