Brian Levine
๐ค SpeakerAppearances Over Time
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Well, that was our initial thought, but we knew if we arrested him, first of all, we didn't have enough evidence yet.
But even if we got that evidence while he was there, if we arrested him, we thought the other two would flee.
They would go to Russia or somewhere else where we couldn't get them.
We didn't need a search warrant, technically, because there's a border exception.
What we wanted to do is when he came across the border, we wanted to search all his digital devices.
And we were hoping he'd have a lot of digital devices on him and that this would break the case.
But the exceptions to the search warrant requirement were really under attack at the time and continue to be.
In part after Snowden, in part a number of events that were going on.
So we didn't want to rely just on an exception to the warrant requirement, especially if we had time to get an actual warrant.
So we did get an actual warrant, and maybe you guys can take it from there.
He did not know, but he was pissed enough and realized that he wasn't going to do this.
So he was communicating with the other members of the group through a encrypted messaging app, Jabber, but it was saving logs.
He didn't think he was identified, but he's like, let's stop recording those logs.
And he changed his password on his phone to the Romanian for U.S.