Brian Richards

They're designed to just sleep indoors.

And the rest of the time, traditionally and socially, we're outside.

But if we are going to be indoors, we need to be really thoughtful about what the lighting environment is.

And there are some cool people who are really thinking about this stuff and architecture and design.

But most places you go and most Airbnbs you stay at and hotels you stay at, they don't even have warm LED light.

It's like really harsh, you know, like this type of task lighting.

Yeah.

And it's just really aggravating to us as humans.

And at the same time, people are blissfully unaware of it.

Yeah, we really are.

Dr. Jeffries has done a lot of beautiful work, new work on this subject.

But we've known this.

The French OSHA said, do not use LEDs at home.

They should only be used for industrial or like task lighting.

Don't use them in the office and at the home.

And that was published in like 2013.

It was like way long time ago, and we knew that that blue light particularly and the spike, the spike spectral nature of LED blue light like shuts down your mitochondria, wrecks your hormones, wrecks your sleep, all this stuff.

And it's not that blue light is inherently bad.

When you get it from the sun, you get a little bit of blue light and a ton of near-infrared and red.

And it all balances itself out.