Brian Verne

It keeps me sane.

Some of us are.

Yeah.

I like to burn the candle on both ends.

What do I wish my 20-year-old self knew?

Man, well, I was really, really stupid at that point in time.

Just really dumb.

I don't necessarily wish I knew this, because I think we probably would have quit even during our first startup.

But just how difficult it really is to...

you know, build a business and, you know, to grow it and, and see it scale and, and to deal with all the different, you know, ups and downs.

Um, I mean, maybe if I, if I, if I was aware and, and wasn't so naive, yeah, we, we wouldn't even be here.

So, uh, that's a hard, it's a hard question to say.

I think in our case, it probably was.

It's kind of funny to think back and think about where we started with what we were initially building and all the different twists and turns that it takes.

Even if you asked me four months ago, would I be in San Francisco right now?

We were still in Cleveland.

We had just come off our best quarter ever.

And I would have told you you were crazy.

So it's just kind of funny how things work.

And, you know, then coming out here and getting into 500, you know, it's always exciting.