Brian Watson

And

Kegstar and Convoy have been very good at being able to basically take care of the back end of it, of getting it from customers and getting it back to us as brewers.

And so that's been quite a bit of a game changer for us in the industry.

And it means that we don't have to have hundreds of thousands of dollars tied up in kegs that we don't know where they are.

Yes, I think it will.

It always does when you have a monopoly.

And so that was part of, I guess, a lot of the submissions from the New Zealand breweries around advocating for two competing companies so that we could maintain a fair and level playing field.

Convoy.

I think we've got to go to Kegstar.

Oh, right.

Or we're going to have to pay $100,000 and go out and buy our own kegs more, which would take six months.

Oh, if we were to go out and buy a keg fleet tomorrow, it would be over $150,000, $200,000.

It's a lot of money.

We certainly don't have it lying around.

And it's something, but, you know, we certainly have enough kegs, a number of kegs.

We still own our own kegs in the short term anyways, which we will get through, but we'll do what we always do.

We just manage the best we can through a crisis, as we have for the last five years, as has a lot of our members, not only from the brewing industry, but a lot of people around New Zealand and lots of different companies.

Well, yes, managing, you're getting through.

Absolutely not.

No, we have customers that are partners that we work with, whether it's Good George there on the waterfront or in Mission Bay or in Raglan or in Tauranga, you know, they rely on us to supply beer so they can serve their customers across the bar.