Bridie

She took her, didn't she?

She gave her away.

I think so, Nicola, yeah.

Yeah.

And to be honest, Nicola, for a long time after it happened, there was a lot of mixed emotions, like with the whole lot of us, you know.

I won't deny it.

I won't sugarcoat it.

For a long time afterwards, Nicola was frosty between me and her.

Because to me, I couldn't understand it.

I mean, I just couldn't.

I just said to myself, you know, I had no kids at the time, myself, like, but when I have them now, even now, and I hate to say it, like, but if I had to, I don't know, live in a tent.

I wouldn't be without them.

Do you know what I mean?

And I couldn't understand how she could just give her up.

I'd say so, Nicola, yeah.

Yeah, I'd say so, yeah.

And looking back on it, I feel bad about it because I probably wasn't... The sympathy or the empathy didn't come from me as I should have done, but...

I suppose you can't tell how you feel either.

It was the June bank holiday.

He'd been off on the Monday, the bank holiday.