Brittany Luce

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I'm Brittany Luce.

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Adam, many of us across the country are seeing what's happening in Minneapolis through cell phone footage and clips filmed by, you know, everyday Americans walking around the street.

But you have been on the ground there.

Do the videos the rest of us are seeing capture what's going on or are we missing something beyond the frame?

As you likely have heard by now, last Saturday, Alex Preddy, a 37-year-old ICU nurse, was shot and killed by Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis.

Citizen cell phone videos from multiple angles show Preddy with a phone in his hand before at least six officers tackle him, pinning him face down on the ground and shooting him in the back.

Department of Homeland Security and the wider Trump administration have given various interpretations over what the nation saw happen in this footage and in the footage of other clashes between ICE and the people of Minneapolis, which is what I want to get into today.

Where are these videos coming from and what it means that the government and the public are widely divided in what they are seeing in them.

To get into this, I'm joined by Adam Serwer, staff writer at The Atlantic, who has been on the ground in Minneapolis.

Hello, hello.