Brittany Luce

I'm Brittany Luce, and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, a show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident.

I want to talk a little bit about some of the tactics that not just you've seen, but also we've seen more broadly, those of us who are outside of Minneapolis and watching from our computers or phones or TVs at home.

One thing that's really struck me about this moment is the use of cell phone footage.

These community members and neighbors have been out there documenting ICE's actions.

Alex Preti himself appears to have been filming ICE moments before he was shot.

What do you make of this form of observation as a method of protest?

Right.

And just to be more specific, it was Vice President J.D.

Vance who said that the officer who shot Renee Macklin Good had, quote, absolute immunity, which some legal experts strongly disagree with.

You know, the government, the media, and the public are, I guess we could describe it as they're divided on what we're seeing in these videos.

You know, for one, Praddy's death immediately became a debate over how the Trump administration is describing it and how journalists, multiple news outlets, and much of the public saw it.

And the government was incredibly quick at drawing conclusions that many felt was not supported by what they saw in these videos.

How do we reckon with this huge divide, right, between what the government is saying happened and what the public can see and what journalists have confirmed?

And then you add to it this whole sort of like AI element where I think a lot of us feel sometimes quite vulnerable in terms of like wondering if we can believe what we're actually seeing.

How do you think that kind of affects this whole situation?

It seems like the existence of AI is kind of advantageous because it just keeps people possibly in a state of distrust of themselves.

Stay with us.

I want to talk a little bit more about the actual people that you have interacted with.

I mean, you've been following people resisting ICE there in Minneapolis.

Specifically, how would you describe this community of people?