Brittany Luce

Is this what people maybe had in mind?

It sounds like many American institutions born of deeply racist roots, they sometimes have trouble outgrowing their foundations in practice, I suppose.

You've taken us on a journey of so many reasons why this dynamic persists, but many people will still find it jarring, I think.

How do you suggest we consider these moments when we see them in our feeds or even in our neighborhoods?

Russell, I appreciate this conversation so much.

I'm really grateful to have so much perspective on how we've arrived at this moment right now.

So thank you so much.

That was Russell Contreras, senior race and justice reporter at Axios.

This episode of It's Been a Minute was produced by Corey Antonio Rose.

This episode was edited by Nina Potok.

Our supervising producer is Barton Girdwood.

Our VP of programming is Yolanda Sanguini.

All right.

That's all for this episode of It's Been a Minute from NPR.

I'm Brittany Luce.

Talk soon.

And that was part of what we believed culturally.

I've been laid off a few times in my life.

Once in 2013 from a motorcycle dealership that in retrospect was totally correct to let me go.

Then again, in 2020, when I was in production for a video series for a company that shuttered without telling us.