Brittany Luce

But he's not allowed to be baby girl.

He's baby girl, but he's not allowed to be baby girl.

It really is for the white guys.

I got a question.

Okay.

So I think some people are going to hear a conversation or watch a conversation and think...

that it's a meme to be calling men pathetic, especially when, as you mentioned, statistics are showing that men have fallen behind in key areas like education and earnings, relationships.

There are some people listening to this that might think men are in crisis and they need our support and love and understanding and not our judgment.

What do you say to them?

We did an episode of our show about that where it's like they were only off by one percentage point or two percentage points.

They were roughly in the same range generally for population-wide loneliness, men and women.

So it's like why aren't we – why are we worried about women?

Yeah.

Yes, there are people who think that maybe femininity is in crisis, but in the grander scheme of things, that is not really a motivator for social change or social response.

Exactly.

The way that masculinity being a crisis is.

And I think that like what that says, right, is that femininity or what it means to be a woman or a gender expansive person, because we all get lumped together.

What that means is that that can be a lot more malleable.

That can be a lot more multifaceted.

There can be a lot of room for ambiguity there.