Brody Jenner
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And my brother had a daughter for his first child and he's got twin boys. But like I said, healthy was most important. Once I had a girl, I want all girls.
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So 44, yeah. We're like right, this is all. Neck and neck. There we go. We got to all hang out.
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We live half, you know, I love Hawaii. I always have. Tia spent a lot of her time growing up in Hawaii. So did I. We just love it over there. We love the people. We love the lifestyle. We love everything about it. And unfortunately with work and things like that, it is tough when you're over there, you know, it's, you do kind of get on island time and which is amazing.
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That's part of the reason why I love it so much. But also you just sort of, you know, you can get real sucked into just family time and go to the beach and you're like, Oh, this is too good. So, uh, we love it. Eventually I could, you know, retire and all that. I think that we'll probably end up full time over there right now. We're doing a little bit of back and forth.
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You know, I love Malibu's my home. I was born and raised there pretty much my entire life. Well, actually, my entire life. But there's just a lot of, you know, it's sad, but it's changed a lot from when I grew up in Malibu, you know? And I think that where we live in Hawaii, it still has those values that I remember growing up as a kid, the kind of the localism and the protecting and this, that.
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And I feel like Malibu, you know, they got a public access. Every other street is a public access now. And look, and I understand the reasoning behind that. You want everybody to experience, but it also takes away from why you end up buying in that area in the first place.
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like i'm not i'm not even exactly i want like i love being a girl dad so much it's weird how old is she now she's 18 months okay so like what nine months yeah i just i don't know i don't know what it is but you're you're i mean you're in it you see but it just it's it gets gross you know it's been awesome i i was someone who you know grew up always like hoping i could have a son
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You're just like, dude, because Malibu is really expensive, you know, and it's expensive to live there and you spend the money to live there. You want to kind of keep it private and you want your privacy.
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You know, Malibu is my, it's just, it's frustrating. I will say that that topic for me is extremely frustrating only because I've grown up in Malibu my whole life and I have saved our home multiple times from fires by staying back and fighting. And I just, the Woolsey fire, I was there by myself, spraying my house till the bitter end, was able to save it, save the house.
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And then as soon as the fire went by, you know, I put out spot fires, whatever. And then I got out of there. which was really important because the fire department had issued save lives, but don't save structures. House was totally savable, but if you're not there saving it to just rely that the fire department's going to go save it, sometimes that's tough.
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So it's super important to get all the necessary fire equipment and the offices are just like, you know, masks, things like that. Cause if you are going to stay back and fight, you want to be prepared, but also like how unprepared we were for this is it's inexcusable. It really is inexcusable because we, I I'm in Hawaii. Somebody said, Oh, fire just started in the Palisades.
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And I'm like, Oh, well, let me check my wind reports real quick. Cause I have, you know, I'm a surfer and I do sailing and all this other stuff. So I'm like, let me see what the wind's going to be like. And I looked at the wind forecast and I heard, and I saw where the fire started and I immediately knew, I was like, Oh, this is going to be as bad as Maui.
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This is going to get probably worse than mad. This is going to be so bad. And I knew that immediately. The fact that the higher-ups are getting this information 48 hours in advance, days before, they need to have crews up in the mountain watching for arsonists, watching for people to start fire, because we all know people love to do that. Every year, it seems that there is a fire.
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They should have been more prepared. And granted, you can only be so prepared. Let's be realistic here. Let's just say they had all the water in the world and the fire hydrants were working the whole time. Let's just say it was. It would have still been very hard.
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Certain fire breaks, like, you know, lines cleaning up a lot of that brush that are surrounding those neighborhoods. I mean, there are, and you know, and unfortunately so many people paid the ultimate price, which is losing everything. And it's just, it's, it really is just devastating for Los Angeles.
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I talk to him every day. You know, I talked to Spencer today. I know he did you guys a show. Yeah. He's look, he's taken a terrible situation and he's making it into the most positive. I mean, he lost everything and a lot of people did and he's just turning to the people, you know, his fans and followers and people to,
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And the one thing that I'll always tell people about Spencer is Spencer is a great guy. Spencer's a really, especially incredible husband, incredible father, but also a great friend. Like Spencer will- He rides for the people. If you're on Spencer's good side, he will go to the grave with you. But if you're on his bad side, he will put you in that grave.
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I want to support him. Yeah. Everyone's like, Oh, but I will say, but Spencer has always gotten sort of this bad rap, you know, from the Hills. But Spencer and I go so far back to princes of Malibu to do a reality television before we even got on the Hills. But, Not enough people know this about Spencer, that Spencer created that villain, that person against Lauren.
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That was all Spencer's mind just working. And his genius is to be able to, I mean, he loved producing reality television. So when we got on the hills, Spencer was like, Oh, now I can use my producer brain and I'm going to be the villain. I'm going to do this. I want to. And he would tell me all the time.
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This is when Kevin Federline days, like back in the day with Kevin and Brittany Spencer used to tell me, he'd be like, I want to be Kevin Federline. I want to be the most hated person in the world. And I'm just like, I don't. Yeah. I'm looking at him like, well, I do not want to be that. So you're on your own. Like, I don't want to be, he's like, I want to be the most.
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And he was adamant that I'm not even exaggerating. He really manifested that. Like he was so driven to being the most hated guy in the world that he went and he was. And for one time, I really think that he might've been one of the most hated people, like one of, you know, in the world and people, he would get death. I mean, he's driving down the street and people are, yeah, no, screw.
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you Spencer you know like oh and then he became a little bit like I don't know if you know that phase of him but then a little bit paranoid and he threw all his hair he's trying to hide himself he's got the guns he's like got a gun at every you know any door he's going to Costa Rica getting busted at like TSA with some loaded mag I don't know what then he got paranoid because he's like wait a minute what did I just do
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But he did that. And then once he tried to backtrack, like, wait a minute, okay, this is a little intense. My life's in danger now. Then it was really hard to get people to go, oh, you know what? Spencer's actually a really good guy. And I think what's so cool about this and what I'm witnessing is people are finally really getting to see What an incredible father he is, person, husband.
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I think that I'm extremely blessed to have a great parent. My mother is just an incredible, incredible mother. I definitely owe a lot to her. My stepfather, David Foster, was an incredible stepfather as well. He was around and he was great. But I will say that what you're talking about, I think it was my friends. I think it was parenting, yes, but also my friends.
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I lived in this neighborhood in Malibu called Sarah Retreat. And I remember David had just done the Bodyguard soundtrack. So he had just done the Bodyguard soundtrack. We grew up in Malibu. We didn't have a ton of money. We grew up in a relatively normal-sized house and just very normal Malibu upbringing. And David was my stepdad, and he did the Bodyguard soundtrack. He had a lot of success.
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I think he won all these Grammys. He really had a year that just transformed his life, and he made a lot of money. And I remember I was around, I think, 10 years old and he bought this monstrosity of a house, this place that was like, you know, he's like, hey, we're going to buy. And it was actually moving next door to my two best friends, Mel Gibson's kids at the time.
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And I was like, oh, I get to live with my friend. And we get in all of a sudden we went from like just a normal house to like, I mean, you had to take a train to get from the main house to the pool. So it was like at 10 years old, all of a sudden we were like, wow, this is, this is wow. And then, and I had a couple of broke homies. I had a couple of homies. That had nothing.
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You know, they literally, they took care of the barn stables. Their parents took care of the barn stables in this neighborhood that we live in. And they literally live, when I say this, like in a converted barn stall. And it was two of them, Sergio and Victor and their sister, Laura. And they had three kids. and the parents all living in this tiny little home.
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And I would have this monstrosity of a mansion, but I would go over and I would sleep at their house. I basically lived at their house and I loved it so much. I loved the way they live. You know, there'd be trash piled up everywhere. And I didn't care because they were my best friends. We would go to school. We loved each other. And I lived in their world and I loved it.
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And they showed me, you know, what it's like to have no money at all and zero. And I, and I loved it, but I loved them and I love the way that, and then, you know, I'd be like, Hey, I took them on their first plane flight. I took him to all these things. And I, you know, I had all these, David was working with at the time, like Barbara Streisand, all these celebrities.
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And for me, that was kind of normal. You know, David was, I never really looked at being a celebrity as something that was like, Oh, wow, I want to be that. I want to be a celebrity. I just, I looked at them as normal people because I would see them all the time.
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And I think coming from a world where you get to see both sides, where I was very in touch with friends, people that didn't have any money at all. And then I'd all of a sudden be in these environments where I'm hanging out with Celine Dion and this. And having both of those worlds, I think really helped me understand that fame, money, all that shit, it doesn't mean anything.
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All that stuff doesn't mean anything unless you, you know, your health is gone. I mean, health should be number one most important thing in life is your health. You know, fame and money. Some people think it's a blessing, but a lot of times it can be a curse.
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And I feel like the dad role with the son is also very, like, it's tough. You've got to raise a son and to teach him all those values to be a good man in society. You've got to teach them a lot of stuff.
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amazing and it was just you know and then you see a lot of people with a lot of money and they're just it's like they're all over the place you know because i grew up in la and i had a lot of friends that had a lot of money but i feel like if you grow up in an environment like that where just everybody around you has just nothing but money and opportunity and all this shit then you're not going to learn anything but if you are surround yourself with people that have nothing and that you're learning stuff from them and then you're also sharing all this cool stuff that you have the wealth you know and you're like hey check this out let's go here like
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You know, and that's kind of what we were doing. I think it really sort of teaches you and traveling. You know, like I traveled a lot. You know, we went to Africa when I was really young. I got to see some really, you know, some communities, a lot of poverty, a lot of... And I got to, you know, I was very blessed to be able to do that sort of stuff too.
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And parents teaching you, hey, like this isn't normal. Just so you know, like this is not... this life is not normal. Like that is normal. So I think that helps a lot. Yeah.
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They were just like blown away. You know, it's, yeah, it's pretty, it's yeah. And I love them. And we still talk to this day and like, you know, we're still good friends and you know, one of them works construction and the other one, we're just like, you know, we're like this. That's awesome. Yeah. That's great.
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For sure. And especially what's, what's great is let's say we do have a boy, which I would love to have a boy, you know, to, like I said, healthy, most important. But if we do have a boy, I feel that it's so imperative and amazing that he has this amazing older sister in his life. And that I think teaches men so much.
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And I was very blessed to have a lot of sisters in my life, stepsisters, biological. And I think that helped me a lot growing up as a to be understanding to women and to understand certain needs and certain things and to how to be compassionate. And I think it teaches a man a lot to be around female energy as they're growing up. Sure. Especially sisters or things like that, of that nature. Yeah.
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I have funny, you know, it's funny about you and me is I remember there was, what was the show that you did that was like the island one? It was like, they all took you. It was Paradise, right? Okay. So that I remember. It's my best work. You're on, yeah. So you were on the one. Yeah. I think that was your best work. Cause I remember I did watch some of that.
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And I remember one year you were kind of like, you know, you never were out of shape, but you were just kind of like normal shape. And then I remember this guy came back. Ripped. One of the seasons. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Jacked city. This guy put in some work in the off season. Yeah.
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And I swear to God, to this day, I still remember like watching and being like, wait a minute, Nick, look at this guy. And it just, you know, all the girls are like, oh my God, look at Nick. And you're just, you know, you're always a very good looking guy. But like when you got ripped all of a sudden, I was like, and then I remember watching and being like, damn, I got to get ripped now.
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I saw the reaction. He was like, I need to get some help.
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It's not that bad. Oh, that's funny. It's tough work to do that. I've gotten in pretty insane shape a couple times, a few times in my life, but it's a lot. It takes a lot of, it's like, it's a lot. Yeah, I was doing CrossFit. He's sticking up for him, for sure. He's like, listen, you have another time. But you seem like you're in great shape.
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You know, I mean, it takes a lot to just, do you just, are you one of those people that are just blessed? You don't even have to
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Cause why? Cause the only reason I asked is cause Tia is, you know, we were, we're sort of waiting to have our next kid because she was like, I want to wait till after I want to get married and be So how was that?
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That's what we, cause we were kind of like, it'd be nice to have her kind of be walking, you know, during that's why. Cause we wanted to get married. We were like, let's wait, we'll wait like a year. And then she'll be kind of more a part of the wedding as opposed to just like newborn where she can kind of remember it, you know? So. We're excited. We're going to, we're going to do it.
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I think we're doing it here. I think we're going to do it in Malibu. Just we're going to do it out the house. Chill. Just some friends, family, nothing too crazy.
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We're already going through that. So we're going through that. Say they were like, well, what about this person? Oh, and then we forget this person.
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But you're going to offend somebody. You're going to, you're always, it's, but ultimately the wedding, it's like, it's your day. So.
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See, that's why I keep saying that. Cause I'm like, you spent all this money. It's like, you're basically just throwing a big party for other people. Like nobody, it's not nobody, but you see a lot of people not kind of enjoying their night because they have to talk to everybody. They got to go and you just, it's your wedding night. You want to be able to just let loose and have fun.
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So you're the youngest. I'm the youngest of seven, yeah. I like the older sister to the younger brother.
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So you did it on a separate day. Yeah. So we did it the day before.
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Totally. Or even like the bachelor, the bachelor party, the bachelor party. I'm like, I don't even want a bachelor party. I care less about going. Like, you know how many bachelor parties I get in my head?
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I'm the youngest. I'm the youngest brother. Okay. So I'm the youngest brother. But the older sister... you know, to a man, I just, I just think like that helps. I do. I really think it like having the older sister and it's just, you have to respect women and respect authority from where it's just, I don't know.
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I get it. I kind of know how that is. For me, luckily, because I DJ. So every time I go to a club, I have to have something to do. You will not catch me at a nightclub doing exactly what you just said. Going there, standing there with a bottle. I've done that way too many times in my life that at this phase, it is nice to be up there doing something, like playing music and DJing.
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For me, I've been in music a long time, and that's a lot of fun.
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because you're getting your orchestrated in the night you're playing songs you get and you're actually doing something and that that's fun and then you can have your boys up in the booth with you yeah yeah well these are doing something i was a stand there being like like people come up i'm like get away i'm engaged don't talk to me i think that's good i think that that's like you know as far as the bachelor and the bachelor like tia doesn't she doesn't care about that stuff either like like go have a party or do something but just
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You can do that anywhere. It's almost better that you do it somewhere.
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I didn't want to do it that's like I literally I would say like I would say that the reason why that I did it was probably because the my initial reaction of doing it was like I don't want to do that you know I was like that's that looks intense that looks hard that looks like very challenging and mentally and physically and I'm like I don't I don't necessarily want to do that and
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Then I sort of like, you know, that was my initial reaction was like, oh, you know, I don't, I don't really want to do it. And then they're asking, oh, was there a price or whatever it is? And I just was like, well, maybe I was thinking like, I slept on it and I'm like, would I do this? Like, I really had to think about, I thought about my grandparents. Both my grandparents were in the military.
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We're in the, one of them was a ranger and the other one was an engineer in World War II. So I come from a lineage of military, and so I was thinking about that. The more time I just had to sit there and sort of take it in and think about it, it's kind of like, you know what?
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Because I don't want to do this, it's probably a good idea for me to do it because I think that any time you're afraid of doing something or whatever, it just makes you stronger if you go through that experience. And so I was a little afraid of it, but then I was like, Maybe I should do this. I thought about it. And ultimately, I just was like, you know what? I talked to my brother.
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My fiance wanted me to do it. My mom did not. My mom was like, no, honey, don't put yourself through that, honey. Do not do that. Of course.
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You know what? I was a little familiar. I didn't watch a lot. I saw the bits and pieces of the first one and then little bits. I didn't watch it all the way through, but I did once I decided to do it. And then I watched it all and I watched this superstar over here make it to the end. And it was really inspiring.
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I mean, the things that I knew, what was interesting for me too, it's like the things that I knew about Nick and your sort of experience. And I always liked you and I liked who you were on television. I always thought you were a really standup guy and I always liked you. But when I saw you on that, I was like, Oh wow. Like I really like him now. Like I like,
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There's something about that show where you get to see a side of somebody and you either really don't like that person or you're like, wow, that person went through that and they kept that sort of attitude and they, you know, and they're willing to go through this and that. And when there's no, you don't get anything at the end, it's not like you win a million dollars, you know, you win nothing.
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Yeah. Self-respect, you know, if you, if you make it, but, um, but yeah, it was, uh, it was, it was crazy. It was crazy.
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Ooh, the physical or the mental. I think they were, I mean, they were both equally as hard. I think, I think the mental, the mental is really, it's, it's brutal. You have to question your existence on why you're, you know, like you have to, you have so much time to sit and think and to. think. And it's very fast moving, but you have so much time to just think like, why am I doing this?
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Like, what is the purpose of this? And ultimately you have to want to be there. You know, you have to really, I mean, and these guys are watching you 24 seven, like, and they tell you right in the beginning, I want to see, and like you said, kind of what you were saying, I want to see 110% every single day.
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I don't care what that looks like for any one of you, which is what, you know, they don't care, but if they are, they're going to want to see 110%. And like you said, if you continuously day in, day out, Regardless if you fail or you win the challenges, it doesn't matter. If you are giving them 110%, you will go far in the show.
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Yeah. And how do you deal with losing? Are you one of those people when you lose, are you like, God, I'm just pissed off? Or are you like, damn, I know what I did. I messed up. I got to fix that. You know, you have to be always thinking like, well, why did I mess, you know, not sitting there dwelling. And I think that, you know, it's all a test. It's all of those little things.
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These guys are behind scenes watching, just going like, well, how does he deal with this? How does he deal with that?
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yeah well they didn't even show on the raft when you know and there were that like already i'm watching the show and you told me before it even aired you're like you're gonna be tripping because it's just there's so much that they don't show and that's so true because already i'm watching i'm like yeah come on that raft thing because it made it seem like you guys wrote this rap okay this freaking raft thing you guys didn't oh yeah you guys did yeah you guys oh yeah yeah yeah yeah so we so we did too but they didn't show we didn't show that no oh fuck
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that so that's what i'm saying so i saw yours and that looked really tough you guys had to carry a super long distance and you had streams you could work with and different things right like no ours was we had so what they showed was one kind of lap you filled up the raft you got out you paddled around this you brought no we had three laps of that going around then making it to the beach then you had to carry the the boat in soft sand up around this you know the
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Far up around the soft sand, carry it around back into the water, back to there. So it was rowing soft sand, right? Yeah. It was exhausting. And you, when you watch it, you're like one time you're going to show like that was no, it does not look hard at all. And it was so grueling.
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i feel like they just put a time code on the bottom like a running time clock of like hour and 27 it only benefits the show totally to show just how fucking grueling they make it for y'all totally and like close-ups of our fate because even in the the buds training stuff like the stuff where they had that was brutal i mean they barely show how much i mean but if like at one point if they would have showed me close up like i look like i'm about to have a heart attack i'm like oh
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Dude, it was brutal. It was gnarly. Like I said, man, it was one of those things like, I don't know if I would do it again. Like, look, there's a lot of the stuff on the show that was a lot of fun. Like, you know, I enjoyed jumping from a moving boat to a helicopter. Like, come on, like, where are you going to sign me up? All these things, like, there was a lot of fun to be had.
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But all the stuff that you don't see, like, in between all that, I mean, it is 24 hours a day. You are constantly being punished. I mean, it is nonstop. And you can't really cover that. And that's the part that I'm like, mentally, I don't know if I'd do that again.
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physically a couple of things like those that was fun that was fun like some of the things coming up you know that you guys are gonna see on the show like i would not want to do again no thanks it's crazy cam is an interesting guy did he ever get on your nerves a little bit you know what the boy talks a lot I was in the zone. Honestly, I had one goal in mind when I was there was just make it.
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I was so locked in. I wanted to be there. I really wanted to be there. Once I was there, once I made that commitment, I'm like, I'm doing this. I'm one of those people where I'm competitive. I'm like, if I'm doing this, I'm going all in.
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So like, honestly, I know what you got to go through.
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I mean, you nailed it on the head. It was Honey, for sure. I just had Honey. Honey was still, you know, a baby. And that was a huge motivator. I think Honey, you know, that one day she'll be able to watch this and see, oh, look, my dad did this, was a huge motivator. My fiancee, who's an incredible athlete as well, like she really wanted me to do it.
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So obviously I'm wanting to make her proud, my brother proud. My dad, you know, even my grandparents were passed away. Just, I would say mostly it was family and the people that I love and I, you know, admire and I look up to the people that I love. I just wanted them to see me do something that was, you know, something that was difficult and hard and able to, you know, just sort of
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show who show what I'm and I didn't even know to be honest I didn't know what I was put I didn't know what I was going to go through I had no idea but my number one driving force was to make my family proud and me I'm like my daughter everybody was for sure that was my number one that's cool yeah you mentioned on a recent episode that you know your dad recently reached out and kind of apologized for just you know not being there for you uh what was that conversation like and was that was that a shocker it was long overdue I'll tell you that
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Like already forgiven. I feel like, uh, Caitlin at the time for, for all the stuff, but would never had gotten a sort of real sincere apology, you know, just like it was, we've had our, you know, our indifferences in the past and it's been so long and I'm 41 years old. I have a family, like I'm over it. I don't need that relationship that I once felt like I really needed.
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You know, I, there was a time in my life where I really feel like I needed this relationship.
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Kind of makes sense. It's a hard pill to swallow. It is a hard pill to swallow. Like Brandon said, you just have to lower your night. And once I did that, I was like, you know what? Wow, that actually did help.
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Bring it on. Yeah, no, it's, it's, it really has just been such a blessing.
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Right. Yeah. And that's, you know, as I got older, I sort of just, you know, understood that. And then when, you know, the Caitlin thing, I mean, my mom was the one who told me before Bruce had reached out and said, Hey, you know, wanted to have the talk and all this stuff. And when that all happened, it was kind of weird because we were like filming on the Kardashians and it just felt very weird.
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not didn't feel very genuine you know it was like hey okay get the cameras rolling all right okay brody sit down and then it was like hey let's talk about how i wasn't there for you i was like yeah are you guys rolling yeah you guys got this to me that's not i'm like okay yeah and i'd sit through the scene and do it okay cool and then i just like but there was no yeah just wasn't there and i think that you know recently it was about i don't know maybe a year ago or something we were playing golf and like i remember just out of nowhere like stopped the car and stopped the car and was like hey i just you know i wanted i wanted to talk to you for a second i'm like
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She's really smart. I mean, she's smart. She's talking already. She's, you know, communicating. She's funny. She's got this personality. That's very, she's, she's clever. She's got this, like, she jokes all the time, which is weird. She's so little and she's like jokes and she does side eyes. You tell her to give you a side and she'll give you a side and go like, she's witty.
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okay what's this all about you know and then she's like i just wanted to really apologize for to you like sincerely about all the years that no i didn't like i really i fucked up i really fucked up that's what she said and i said it in a way and i was like you could tell that she really felt that and really meant that did she try to explain herself A little bit. Yeah, a little bit.
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She just talked about the struggles that she was going through at the time as Bruce. And you know what? And I understood. Nobody's perfect. And at the end of the day, you have to forgive. You have to be able to move forward. If you sit there and you just think negative thoughts, I swear it only does a disservice to yourself. The ability to be able to forgive and move forward, it's so...
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It really helps you out more than anything. I was like, you know, once you forgive and you move on, you're like, wow, I feel great. But if you hold that resentment and you carry that, it ends up just going into other parts of your life. And it's just, it's counterproductive.
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But I will say that. I wonder if your dad, I don't know if he'll ever do that, but it does help when it's that sincere sort of look. I'm not perfect. I've made mistakes. I've done those things and I apologize. It's just to hear that and to feel that, it feels good.
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I mean, not really. No. I mean, look, I love them all. Love them all to death. Like, you know, I just don't see them. Like, you know, Kim's busy. Courtney's busy. I got to see them recently for Caitlin's birthday. We went over to Kylie's house. Kylie, unfortunately, wasn't there. She was traveling back from New York. But I just they're all busy, man. You know, everybody's busy.
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They're doing their thing. You know, we didn't grow up in the same household. So it's not like it's any different. You know, it's like I don't get to see them. But when we do see each other, it's like no time has passed.
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I have number one priority in life and that's my family, my own family. And that's what I'm going to devote a hundred percent of my time is to my family. And it, you know, it requires a lot of time and focus and energy and my household. So ultimately, yeah. Like worrying about that. And that's things you can't control. I just, you know, if we do get to see each other once a year, great.
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If we can't do it this year, you know, it is what it is. They got their kids. We have, you know, everybody's busy, but we all love each other. And we all have a tremendous amount of love for each other. And even Kendall and Kylie, you know, those are my little sisters. I rarely get to see them. It's not their fault. You know, it's not my fault. It's not really anybody's fault.
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Yeah. I feel like every parent is always like, that's genius. Yeah.
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It's just, yeah, they don't live that far, but we lived in two different households growing up. we are close. We're really close, but we're not like call each other every day type of close. But if, if Kylie or Kendall call me right now, I would walk out of this room and pick up the phone and, and, and I'd be there for them. I would leave this.
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Right. After you were gone. Yeah. That's see. Yeah.
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Brandon's kids are, he's got twin boy. He just had another baby a little while ago. So he has a, I think she must be three or four months old now. He's got a newborn baby girl, Joan. And then he's got two boys that are four. I want to say twin boys that are around four. His daughter is Eva and she's seven or eight. Yeah. So.
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I will say though, that I do credit all of that mostly to my amazing fiance, Tia. She's such a good mom. She really is. She's been so good ever since she's been an infant to just work with her patient. She's always working with her speech and talking and this and playing. And she did so much research going into it. She's just been amazing. And I think that that does help
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Absolutely. I think that, you know, Tia's sister actually just had a baby this morning. So she just had her second child. So her sister had her child only a couple months before Tia. So she's got her sister. Her sister just had a boy. I don't know. He's got to be a year and a half around honey's age. And then she just had another boy last night. So Tia's with them right now.
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And yeah, I mean, Brandon has all these kids, you know, we're very close with Brandon and them. And so there's nothing better than siblings and cousins. Right. Absolutely. I love that because we're from the South as well. So Memphis, Tennessee is like, yeah, yeah. Come on now. Okay. TCB. Come on now. Let's go, girl.
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No, but so no, but I, my mom's side, her whole family's from Memphis, Tennessee. And so, yeah, I come from, I've spent a lot of time in the South growing up and it's great. It's, it's the Southern values is my mom's, you know, that's, she gets around her, you know, her family, all of a sudden, y'all need it, y'all. I'm like, where did this come from, mom? Is it that, really?
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I was saying- Y'all, it's just all of a sudden, it's like pigeon in Hawaii. Y'all, y'all, y'all.
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I love it. I love that, though. I love the Southern. So yeah, she's gonna, you know, family's very important to us, for sure. We want her to get around as much family as possible. Yeah, and just- That's awesome. Try to facilitate the best life for her in any way we can.
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It's just like, I'm just in awe. Every time I look at honey, I'm just like, I just love her so much. Like that feeling where you just want to squeeze. She does something. It's just, it's just right. And there's nothing. The only thing you care about is how do I make that person the most happy person on this planet, no matter what it is like.
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And that's why we talk about in the relationship and making sure you fight for your relationship. And, you know, Tia and I both are on that side of it. You know, we really love each other. We love our family. We love, you know, yes, we fight just like anybody else. Every couple, like I said, you know, keeps it interesting. It's good to have your disc.
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You need to, you can't just be smooth sailing all the time. You can't. I don't think you can. Somebody has a smooth sailing relationship. Something's off. You got to have a little bit of, you know, there needs to be a little something.
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I feel like I'm definitely one of those people that always wants to fix it right now. Like I'm like, I'm like, let's just, I'm like, let's fix this. Like we need to talk. And she's like, don't talk. Like leave me alone right now. I'm like, no, please just let me talk.
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let me get so then i'll have to go make myself busy i'll do something give her some time time time keep try it again should i apologize again i'm gonna go back in try it again if i'm still sensing leave again i just i slowly just have to keep you just you gain little bits of progress each time until finally yeah then she'll be like okay you do the apologizing and you work your way back this is what i learned okay i'll do this differently
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I'm like, but do you need to apologize for anything? Because I'm all... Is there anything you'd like to apologize for?
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You know, I was... I wasn't going to go back to reality television. Like after my last kind of stint of it, T and I dabbled in the YouTube space a little bit of a sort of kind of just like reality type of show that we have control of, you know, like we're, you know, we can hire somebody to edit it, but like we are in control of it. Something like that.
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I would gravitate towards a little more than, than something like another competition show or whatever it is, or even just a reality show in general. I think that, the hills and the time that I was on reality television back then, it's just a different time. You know, at times reality shows have changed a lot. I feel like you were kind of, you know, that's old school still. That's OG.
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You were in it when it was... It's changed a lot since when you were on it, when I was on it. I mean, it's changed. And now you essentially have your own reality TV show channel and YouTube and all these different things. You don't necessarily need to. I think that for me and for my future, I just... I'm really enjoying the music, the family, you know, music.
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My, you know, my stepdad was David Foster. Growing up, music has been a huge part of my life. Something that's never been shown in reality television shows because all the shows that I was on were like these relationship type of shows. So they never followed my musical journey because I was in, you know, bands, played the drums and all that stuff.
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And then the DJ stuff I picked up about 12 years ago. And I just, you know, I love music. I love, but it's tough for me now at 41 to just continue the club circuit, you know, like being in nightclubs and doing the open. Cause I learned open format.
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And so I played a lot of Vegas shows, top 40, all that stuff, but some late nights, you know, and when you're doing them consistently every single weekend, doing those types of shows, it's tough. So right now I'm gravitating more towards producing my own stuff, putting out original music. and potentially playing more type of festival shows. You know what I mean? Like more EDC breakaway.
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Um, there's a lot of really cool music festivals that play a lot earlier, you know, I'll be going on at like probably 4 PM in the afternoon, which, which I'm, I'm cool with, you know, and performing on a level like that, as opposed to only doing sort of the late night club, because I'll still do some, but it's doing them every single weekend.
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It just takes away from the time that you get with your family. And I think that When you have a young child, you come home and you got to have energy. You got to be ready to go. Like you got to be like, you got to be up. You got it. You can't just, you don't have time to have a day hangover or be tired or whatever it is.
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I try to, yeah. You know, I, I've done a fair bit of drinking in my, in my, in my days. So I, I've, I haven't drank in six months or something like that. Taking a little break from the alcohol. I think it's good to just go through cycles where you take a break. And I'm definitely in one of those cycles. I was like, you know what? I'm just enjoying feeling good, waking up.
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You know, my hangovers were terrible. So I cut out alcohol. Who knows if I'll ever revisit it. Maybe, maybe not. Right now I'm loving life without it. So that's been a lot of fun. But just, we try to stay healthy. You know, I'm fairly active. You know, I think that our lifestyle is very active. I do train a little bit. I like to keep cardio up.
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I like to, a lot of the things I like to do are, it takes a lot out of you. Like I almost died the other day, literally like surfing the other day. I went out on a really big day and I had no business being out there. Like I'm, I've been serving a long time and I'm a pretty good surfer, but I went out there on a big day and I had like a very, very close call of drowning.
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And I was like, Oh, it was terrifying. Like it was like, I would, I've had some serious beat downs in my life, but this was one of those situations where I was like family flash before my eyes type of. Yeah. Just recently I was like caught in a wave. You know, I made a mistake. I paddled out, didn't really look at the sets. It was really big.
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You know, we're talking like, like actually like 25 foot faces of them in the huge, the waves were huge. And I paddled out there and I took off on a medium size one, not waiting for a set. I didn't really wait for it. So as I took the medium size one, I'm going to paddle back out and I see this just huge set coming and I'm trying to make it out. I'm like, I'm not going to make it.
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Totally. And I think nowadays too, I mean, you, there's so much like research and just online and stuff. You can, There's so many things you can learn about that I don't think that our parents had when we were growing up, you know, it was just sort of weighing it. So there is a lot of information out there that does make such a difference.
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I, you know, I was like deciding and I paddle, paddle, paddle. I was like, I was sprinting to get out to make it. And I get over the one wave and I just behind it was like just this black wall of like, you know, it was a solid 25 foot. I mean, this thing just detonated right on top of me. And I was so out of breath because I was, I was paddling. So I was like, oh no, this is about to happen.
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So I took like, you know, three or four waves, just one after the next, just boom, boom. And I, I mean, I can't, when I was coming up, I'd only get like a chance to get one more breath in and then it would, I mean, I almost blacked out. Like I was like this close to blacking out and I went in right after and I was like, that was, that was the closest I've ever come to drowning.
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And that just happened like two weeks ago. And then I snapped my MCL.
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But isn't the thing, like you were saying, life hacks or whatever. I love keeping myself excited about things or learning. Yeah. And I do find that that helps me stay enthusiastic with life, you know, waking up every day and wanting to get better at something or enjoying.
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So like for me, it's surfing and being in Hawaii and experiencing those type of waves and knowing that I'm not really prepared for this and going, wow, I need to train harder and sort of waking up with a purpose.
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Absolutely. Just waking it and it could be anything.
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We have. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we've got her up there. She's not, she's kind of, she gets in the water and then she's really into saying all done right now. So it's just, No matter what it is, it's all done. All done. All right. All done. So we've got her on there. She, yeah, she loves, she loves over there in Hawaii.
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You know, things that Tia has done with Honey, you can really see how it's helped her developmental stage, you know, a lot. So it's been really cool. How did you and Tia meet? We met in Hawaii. We sort of started, you know, I slid into the DMs. Hey, you know, I mean, it's just, it's interesting. Like, you know, Instagram and those kinds of things.
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Her first word, I want to say dada. No, I'm just kidding. Of course. No, I don't know. I think it was, it probably was mama. It was probably the mama. The rest was dog. Oh, really? You know what? It might've, you know what? Actually, I think she loves dogs. She might, that might've been her first word. Tia would know that. Like it might've been that dog. Cause she's just kind of like dog.
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Oh wait. And so how old is your daughter? She's almost one February. Oh, it gets, it's just gets, it's like, you know, honey's like a year and a half and it just gets better. What did you do for her? Cause now she's talking. We just had a nice little chill party at the house.
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Like we had some friends over and just celebrated at our house and just did a little something, nothing too crazy, but it's, you know, it's just once they start to communicate and they're really, you know, that's when we're just having fun.
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No, they are. Well, Tia's sister had a baby, so she drove down south. Her parents live down in Oceanside. So she went down to Oceanside, and she's going to visit the family. I got to do some work stuff. I'm doing this, and then I go to Vegas for Mamita's, my tequila soda brand.
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We have a big kind of convention thing out there, so I got to go to Vegas, and then I come back, and we're here for another week or something, and then back to Hawaii.
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obviously kindle with 818 is there any like dream of like collaboration with 818 we've actually we've done some stuff with 818 yeah we did yeah we we put some stuff out together we worked with them we had them at our wedding a year ago which one the mamitas or the 818 yeah no she's got great distribution either her tequila's great i've tried it it's awesome um
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But yeah, I mean, we're always looking to cloud. We just launched in Mexico like three weeks ago. We got into all the OXXOs out there. So I think we're in like 15,000 OXXOs. So we changed the flavor profile a little bit. It's a little more sugar. We have a couple of different flavors. They're really good.
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the ones because we did all the the united states ones very kind of low-cal low sugar everybody likes that but in mexico they don't seem to care as much we put a little more sugar because they like the taste you know and uh and it's it's just a little it's it's it's doing well in mexico so we're uh we're excited it's been fun it's been i think i'm like four four years in five years in but the beverage space is just it's
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wild it's very competitive it's extremely competitive but you know the guys that i parted up with started for loco i mean these guys are like pine yeah there's some these guys and they're just such great people they're like really good friends of mine so it's been fun starting this thing and sort of watching other brands come in because we were one of the first ones to do tequila and soda and then a bunch of other brands kind of came in after and you just i always just remember being like dude why what do you know i was always so worried we got this and he's like
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Like they're going to be out of here. Just watch.
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I never remember anything off Four Loko. Absolutely not. It's like the mind eraser just immediately. Yeah. No, it's, it's yeah. Four locos. No joke.
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I mean, I think, uh, no, just special forces Wednesday, 8 PM. And, uh, yeah, just stay healthy and happy everybody. Yeah.
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It's one of those things where you have people's information. They don't even know. I mean, everybody, you know, so I did, I saw her on that show, the surfing show, the ultimate surfer. Yeah. Yeah. It was, yeah, The Ultimate Surfer.
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Yeah. All of us are on Instagram. America's best surfer? No, no, no. It was, no, it's called The Ultimate Surfer and Tia was on it. And I saw her on there. I had never seen her before and I follow surfing pretty, you know, I'm a surfer and I've been in the ocean a lot. It's like, who is this girl? I've never heard of her. She's incredible. She's beautiful. She surfs better than all these. I was...
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kind of blown away by her. So I looked her up and then I saw her. And then I, I think I saw her, I don't know. I think she was like shooting some guns or something outside. I was just like, Whoa, this is, I'm really in love. She was shooting guns. I'm like, I'm sold. I'm in. Uh, so I think I reached out to her, um, and just was like, Hey, you know, wow. Like, anyway, we just small talk.
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And we did that for quite a while. I think we just sort of talked, um, very briefly for almost a year maybe. And then I was on a family trip in Hawaii and she was on a neighboring island and,
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Dude, I don't do these things ever. I'm not a pod. I've done some podcasts, but I'm not a huge podcast. I don't do that many.
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she wanted me to come to her and I was like listen like my whole family's here I can't really leave and I was like look there is one plus side you get to meet my entire family in one in our first you know first time we meet you get to meet every single person like not everyone but 95% of them that's tough you know so she was like alright I understand so she came over and we spent the day and honestly like as soon as I saw her as soon as I picked her up from the airport I was just completely I mean she's amazing yeah I'm very very lucky very lucky to have her
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Somebody's asked me that today on this show. They're like, what is your routine? You know, what do you, I'm like, I don't have like a routine, but I was like, the one thing I guess I do do is moisturizer. I've always.
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Yeah. Just like the body lotion. I don't know what it is. I just rub it all over my face too. But I think like lotion. Yeah.
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honestly i think just life experience i think that there's not one specific thing that i've learned i think that as you guys both know just every year you just you just are different i was just the other day gonna say something on my tiktok because i was like isn't it so crazy because you see all these young tiktokers with the face tats and this or now the spray tans and these guys had some veneers and they were doing this video and i reposted on my thing because it was so ridiculous this video and i'm thinking like those kids though right now think that that's cool and
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they're like, you know, this is cool. This, but if, you know, when they're my age and they look back at themselves, they're going to be like, what was I thinking? And I think that's how life is with relationships. I think that it's, it's all this entire thing that we're doing right now, living and, you know, living and breathing is an experience and it's a learning experience.
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If you are able to open yourself up and not be too closed minded and learn. And I think, that from all those relationships, I've learned a lot as far as like what not to do, you know, or what does work? What are the things that do work? What are the things that don't work?
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Absolutely. I think that I've had sort of the opportunity to be able to do that, which has been a lot of fun. I think that, as you guys know, because congratulations, by the way, that's amazing. And is it, it's a boy or girl? Girl.
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And I think just life experience has helped me because I think if I would have met Tia in my twenties, we might've not been together. We might've, because I think I was young and I was immature and I was wild and I was going out and I was partying. I was there, you know, I was, I was a young male living in Hollywood on a television show. And that's, you know, I was, I was wild for sure.
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And I've definitely now, settle down. And I think that I reached a certain point in my life where I just was like, you know, really trying to find what made me happy. Like, what do I enjoy? Do I enjoy being single? Do I enjoy being in a relationship? And I found that I do love being in a relationship.
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I really love, I love love and I love being in a relationship, but I had to do some things to change, to, to better myself, to be able to just be an all around better father and
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especially when kids are involved you know as soon as you have a kid it's like yeah it's you know so i just i think that over time i've just kind of lived life and learned what not to do and what to do and what what's good and what's bad and we you know we're all human i still make mistakes i think we all do uh when i met when i met natalie early on once things got serious i was like i definitely want to have kids but i don't think i ever want to get married and i i had never been married before but
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Yeah, I was, I got, I was, yeah, I did get married before. I had a, the thing, we got married in Indonesia a while ago. We never officially signed, you know, did the whole. So never. No. So technically, so technically, Technically, no. I was never officially married. I didn't have to go through a divorce. We had a big party. We had a big raging party in Indonesia.
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It's like getting married in a movie. And didn't have to go through that legal battle when we separated, which was nice. That's a blessing. Yeah, and I think that for me, I was the same way. I, uh, I've, you know, growing up, that's all I knew was divorce and parents and fighting.
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And when they did get a divorce, just how messy it was and fighting over the, I mean, it was just, you know, I saw that my whole life and that definitely put me off marriage for a a long time. You know, I was just kind of like, I don't know if I want to do that. You know, why? It's just, you're signing your life. Well, why do we need to do that? Why can't we just be together?
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And if we're not in love anymore, just go our separate ways without that sort of signature that says, well, you know, I get this and you get this and this is your divvy it up. You know, that's just... I feel like, you know, you should just know whose is like, okay, this is mine. This is yours. Let's do this friendly.
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It's just so sad when you see people spend so much time together and create this life together. And then when they get a divorce, how many times you see it just go so south. And now all of a sudden these two people hate each other. And then they're going, you know, let's say somebody cheats or something like that. You know, your spouse, they want to... They want to take everything that you got.
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If you do something like that, I mean, get ready because it's going to be messy. And I just think that now having met the right, I mean, Tia is the love of my life. And I think that, you know, overall back then it was just a little, my headspace was a little different. I think now once I met Tia and I just, I really want to see her in that wedding dress. I want to see her and look like we talked.
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We learned, you learned, I learned, you know, like what, you know, I kind of feel like my first marriage was a little, I was, you know, not really ready. I just kind of was like, okay, I'll just do it anyway. You know, nothing, not to say anything bad about my, any of my exes, but, uh, you know, just life happens and I learned. And then now it's, I'm, I'm finally found the right person.
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And we have this beautiful daughter and I want to see honey in the wedding. I want to see her watching Tia and the way, and I think we're going to get a little dress for honey. I mean, it's just, I feel like it's, it feels more now. Like it's like, this is, this is a family. Yeah, totally. It just feels right. So I feel like I'm in a place in my life where I do want to get married. I want that.
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I think that healthy, obviously, was our, you know, our number one thing was healthy. You know, you're just like, oh, you just pray every day that your baby's healthy. And I think that as far as gender goes, I went back and forth with boy, you know, because I'm like, you got to carry on the name. The boy's going to carry on the name and all this.
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I want the family. I want the kids. I want, I'm just, I'm, you know.
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Because Tia's parents, they've been together over 30 years. And I know a lot of people that have parents that have fought through it and stayed married. And I think that I'm envious of that. And I think that it's worth fighting for. If you really love the person and you really love your family and you don't want to see your... Ultimately, it's the kids.
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That's who it affects the most when the family unit is broken up. And even... It doesn't... it affects them as much as you think it doesn't. It's the little things, you know? But ultimately, if it's better for you guys, for parents to split up, to take away the fighting and to take away all that stuff in front of the kid, that's important too.
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If you are not able to coexist as parents and show your child that this is what love looks like, affection, love, hugging, that is so important. If you guys are going to argue and do all that stuff, make sure you do it.