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Brooke Nevels

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
215 total appearances

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Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

And how these things really happen.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

Because when we're talking about something difficult, something painful, I think the human impulse is to make it easy to understand, is to simplify it and kind of make it more black and white.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

So it's easier to talk about.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

But the point of talking about this is,

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

is to acknowledge just how devastating and confusing these things are, how quickly it happens, how you react in the moment.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

And reaction is really the right word.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

It's more reaction than a choice.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

And when you look back on it later, you second guess absolutely every single move that you made without really understanding

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

What happened?

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

Because in the aftermath of sexual harassment, of sexual assault, you're always looking to give the benefit of the doubt, especially when it's someone you know.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

You don't want this horrible thing to have happened.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

You want things to be okay.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

So you blame yourself as a way of convincing yourself you were in control the whole time.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

That's very common.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

That's very true.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

Rape is a word I hardly ever use because when you hear the word rape, you think of a guy in a ski mask in the dark alley and fighting for your life.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

And that's just not the reality of how sexual assaults happen.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

When most of the time it's someone that you know and trust.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

So we don't really have language to talk about this.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

And we certainly didn't when, you know, in 2017 when I was reporting it.