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Brooke Nevels

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
215 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

And it takes a very long time to really process and get to the point where you can

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

Talk about it in those terms.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

And those terms are devastating.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

When you say sexual assault, when you say rape, your life changes.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

You have a target on your back.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

Every single thing that you say or that you don't say becomes evidence.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

Which is a loss of power and control.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

That's really what it is.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

You realize that you are powerless and something scary is happening and you're trying to cling to whatever control you have.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

So part of reclaiming that control is telling yourself it wasn't that bad.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

It was a misunderstanding.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

It was anything but the devastating thing that is a sexual assault.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

And in my particular situation, the power differential was as extreme as it could possibly be.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

When your job is to work with the talent, when these are people who have to be kept happy, who their opinion of you can make or break your career, annoying them can mean you're never allowed on a set again.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

That changes the dynamic of every single interaction that you have.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

And another part of that is that any attention that they give you, professionally, you feel is a positive thing that you are lucky to get.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

And people who are in power know they're in power.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

That's something that they wield every single day.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

So when you're a person in power and you ask someone less powerful to do something, you have the responsibility to think about whether they are able to say no, whether they will feel comfortable saying no, whether they can be penalized for saying no.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

And we always talk about fight or flight, but the most common reaction to being scared or nervous is freezing.