Bruce Anderson

I don't want to overstate it, but it is different from what we saw in 1980 and 1995.

And

It's why it's incumbent upon these kind of mainstream political leaders to find the right tone, to find the right language, and to center on the right arguments to diffuse this.

So it doesn't become some sort of a heated battle of political rhetoric and pugilism, because that could go wrong a lot of different ways.

All right.

Yeah, I think he is in some respect.

And I think the group that he was speaking to, I don't know who was there exactly, but the way that this conference has evolved over the years, it's typically, you know, people who care a lot about the policy aspects of conservative thinking and

he might not be wrong to think that those folks, unlike the 87% of the party membership who voted for Pierre Polyev to stay, are wondering if Pierre Polyev is exactly the right kind of leader for this moment facing this kind of liberal leader.

But I don't want to overstate that.

I can't really speak about the DNA and the thought processes of that group.

What I would say is that Pierre Polyev, from the coverage that I saw, said three things about

that I thought were remarkable, but not in a good way.

First of all, he said that

Liberals in Ottawa want him to change.

And the ones that I talk to don't want him to change.

They want him to stay exactly the same way that he is because they might say that he should change, but they don't really want him to change because they think they can beat him again if they have another run at him in a few years.

The second thing that he keeps on saying is that Carney is slow.

That Pierre Polyev thinks...

in fast and carny acts in slow.

And all of the evidence that I see from polling just doesn't look like that.