Bruce

And that kind of sparked my curiosity.

As I grew up, I can still remember the dream vividly like it's a movie I watched five minutes ago.

And it stuck with me my whole life.

And that kind of made me more curious, too, because my my family being Christians, they're like, well, that was like God, the Father and Jesus Christ walking you through the chaos of the world saying we got you.

So we'll fast forward a little bit.

I end up having a heart surgery at six.

My dad is a good friends with the guy that owns a ranch in Colorado.

go out there, do a bunch of stuff, shoot guns, hunt.

I get him to quit smoking cigarettes out there.

And then the same year he quit smoking cigarettes, he wrecks his Harley, rips his calf off and starts going on all these walks to rebuild his calf muscle up and ends up having a heart attack while I'm in a Boy Scout meeting and he's walking around doing his thing.

That was a pivotal moment in my 11-year-old life.

My whole world collapsed.

He was my best friend.

And everything lost meaning.

I didn't understand God.

I just went numb.

I didn't even cry for years after this.

It just kind of wrecked me.

I was already curious as it was.

And then having grown up in the church, it drove me even further.