Bruce

And so the closest thing I got to oral sex was talk, talking about it.

Yeah.

And so, you know, for the longest time, I would have, quote, affairs in which I go and make out and maybe have oral sex, but not have penetration and intercourse because I could rationalize that.

And then, you know, after you have done that for a while,

The women who you're making out with and who's performing oral sex would like to have penetrative sex, and one thing leads to the next, and that's what happened.

And then from your previous podcast, I can assure you that it was tremendous guilt, tremendous guilt, to the point that I would make sure that if I screwed around, I would not

go home and have to make love to my wife because I couldn't get it up.

It was just so guilt ridden.

But after a couple of days, you know, somehow it dissipates.

The guilt dissipates.

So this went on for years.

And

Toward the end of my marriage, I used to call them double headers and triple headers.

By that, I mean I'd have one or two women a night.

Double dipping.

I like double headers.

And a couple times I had triple dipping.

Wow.

And so I think I had what I consider to be a normal sex drive for 20, 30,

year old individual on 40 year old individual.