Bryan Calcott

But if I'm going to give to someone and it's going to shield them from the consequences of their negative actions, which means that it's going to prevent self-improvement from being necessary, then I look at it as if I'm not doing anything to help them and I'm ultimately enabling them.

So while I can see a role for a government being powerful in creating some kind of safety net for people, I also feel that you do have to be realistic about how that safety net can ultimately enable people.

Are there people out there that if they just had a little fucking help, they could literally change their life?

Absolutely.

But are there people that are going to milk the fucking system and stay on it for the rest of their life because they're lazy?

Absolutely.

And so rather than this, just we're going to be over here and give money out, you know what I mean?

Not going to ask any fucking questions or out here.

We're not going to give any money out.

It's just like, can we just be in the fucking middle and admit that both sides have reasonable reservations and say, how do we take both of these reasonable reservations and how do we implement policy to where they're both considered?

OK, but then what's the answer to that?

If there's going to be people, this is more of an ethical question, I guess.

Is the government required to enable a moocher is ultimately the question we're asking.

And then we're talking about laissez-faire survival of the fittest.

I guess the other thing I would say, too, is that I think that the only reason you need these safety nets now is because we don't truly live in a free market capitalist society.

I believe we live in a society that's driven by cronyism.

And I think that these people use these regulations in the name of social justice to actually eliminate real capitalism.

And that's part of what Ayn Rand was talking about in Atlas Shrugged is that this whole wealth gap that you're talking about

It's actually done in the name of social justice.

And that's the ultimate corruption that you have to look at.