Bryan Cantrill

Well, it was even better than that. It was when ESPN came on, they were ESPN.bsky.social for like a hot second. And literally their first post was like, no, no, no, we know, we know, we know, we're changing. I mean, everyone is dogpiling them being like, come on, you got to change the domain name. You're ESPN.com. Yeah, yeah.

That is a very elegant solution to the problem. And I mean, and people are obviously calling out like the fact that you get, because you're getting this verification basically, and you're verifying it the way we verify the internet, which is like, why wouldn't you do it that way?

Big win, I think. Can I ask you just a very pedestrian question? Because this is the only thing that has kept me, so I'm currently bcancelbsky.social, but I definitely want to, I actually, I don't know if I want to bcancel.dtrace.org or bcancel.oxide.computer. So this is my own thing I need to go grapple with.

You can, but the only thing that's hung me up is that I need to go immediately squat on my old name, right?

Oh my gosh, that is great. That is terrific. And I'm sorry to disrupt your comms plan on that. Thank you very much for breaking news here on Oxide and Friends. That's just being handed to me. That's terrific. And one of the things that you all are doing so, so, so well, and I just cannot thank you for enough is

is the degree to which you're listening to people who use the product and you're using the product yourselves. It feels basic, but it's amazing how often this doesn't happen. That's a great example. I know you've got so many... terrific ideas for things that can be done.

But that's just like, that's a really kind of like a basic, simple kind of pain point that is not debilitating, but boy, thank you so much for, for fixing it. I think it's just, it's part of what makes it as a user, a blue sky. It makes me so enthusiastic for the future of this platform and, One thing I do, I won't be mindful of time because I know Adam's going to have to bolt here.

His no longer toddler is now, is that kid in high school yet? First grade? What is he in? Second grade. Second grade. God, yeah, built like a high schooler. But there's one last feature I wanted to ask you about, and that is starter packs. Um, because another thing that was, I know is basic. Uh, it was really important.

I feel, um, could you just describe a little bit like kind of the, the, the thinking behind starter packs?

dirty tactic anyway i think that is so damn dirty i mean i agree yeah well and like it gives an ick vibe that like anytime i get up to a nap now and i think everybody has it you know he's like oh no i'm not gonna give you my contact actually get out of there no don't even ask it's like i don't want to peek like no no peaking gross get out of here yeah

And for whatever it's worth, just my own personal experience with starter packs, I was trying to get... I'm an Oakland A's fan. The hashtag sell the team. And we kind of got this now beleaguered lost tribe that is still very much on Twitter, was very much on Twitter.

And talking to the folks who are kind of like the leaders of that community being like, we've got to get one of the starter pack because the entire community wanted to leave, but you kind of needed everyone to go at once. Yes. And that is what starter packs – starter packs were a lifeboat for people who wanted to – and I saw this in various scientific communities.

I saw it in certainly in Oakland A's Twitter where it's like, okay, this is now the opportunity. And I think actually another thing that I love about just like the dynamic was people would start a starter pack with 60 people. And those people would kind of come on and the person who started the starter pack would always say, hey, like, let me know if I forgot anybody.

And you've got like a bunch of people raising their hand being like, oh, God, I'd love to be included in that starter pack. And they ended up being very inclusive and uplifting and a great way to move communities across. So it doesn't surprise me because in that multi-month gap where you're like, why isn't this working? Yeah.

I, and I'm sure other people in various other communities are kind of lobbying people who are still on Twitter to be like, no, like let's get one of these together so we can get everyone over at once. Um, yeah, it's been really great. So thank you very much for that. It's a good, it's been a, it's been a great feature.

And just again, thank you. And thank you, Paul, for taking all the time with us tonight. And we are huge fans. Love what you're doing, what you and the team have done. Love that.

I mean, we feel like very much kindred spirits and that like this is a problem that you all have as a team have been thinking about for many, many, many years and watching all of that wisdom get expressed in what you've done. And you've created something. I know it's challenging. And the more people you get in there, there's going to be challenges that are going to arise with that.

But boy, what you're doing is so important and special. And we're really deeply, deeply, deeply appreciative. You've given, I think, a lot of people, certainly me anyway, real hope in what we can have out of social networking. So really deeply appreciated.

Absolutely. Well, and I'm sure again, humans are tough, so more challenges to come, but really appreciate it. And thank you again for taking the time to come here. And we'll be glad that no one has to hit up Klavnik for invites anymore. Everyone can hop on there.

And Adam dropped an Oxide computer starter pack if you want to follow folks who are, we got a lot of folks from Oxide, obviously, who are over there. Paul, thanks again. Thank you very much. Um, welcome back anytime, obviously. Um, and, uh, keep up the great work. We'll be, um, we'll be there and in the thick of it. So thanks again. Sounds great. Thanks for having me. All right. Thanks everybody.