Bryan Cantrill

Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm doxing you as old. Listen, don't you listen to our podcast? This is like the Gen X Senior Hour. We talk about attending readings from Ad Rock of Beastie Boys.

You want the company to be younger than it is?

You want the company to be younger than it is?

Okay. All right. Yeah. Red Monk has got an aging complex or something. Are you getting Botox injections for Red Monk? I noticed there's no crow's feet. I mean, Red Monk looks like, as far as I know, it's the Brian Johnson of companies, of consulting organizations, we often say. So you've got the...

Okay. All right. Yeah. Red Monk has got an aging complex or something. Are you getting Botox injections for Red Monk? I noticed there's no crow's feet. I mean, Red Monk looks like, as far as I know, it's the Brian Johnson of companies, of consulting organizations, we often say. So you've got the...

Okay, well, so in the unspecified past, Theo, I don't know if you've got the same hangout, but I mean, you and I met, and I think Theo, when do you think we met?

Okay, well, so in the unspecified past, Theo, I don't know if you've got the same hangout, but I mean, you and I met, and I think Theo, when do you think we met?

I think we met at OSCON 2005. Okay, that's feasible.

I think we met at OSCON 2005. Okay, that's feasible.

Yeah, we did a Detroit session at OSCON 2005.

Yeah, we did a Detroit session at OSCON 2005.

Pour one out for OSCON. Okay, so let's start actually a little bit with OSCON. OSCON was the O'Reilly Open Source Conference. And, Theo, you had been to OSCONs earlier than that, I think. That was my first OSCON in 2005, but I think you had been maybe a couple years prior.

Pour one out for OSCON. Okay, so let's start actually a little bit with OSCON. OSCON was the O'Reilly Open Source Conference. And, Theo, you had been to OSCONs earlier than that, I think. That was my first OSCON in 2005, but I think you had been maybe a couple years prior.

Okay. Okay, so, yeah, tell me about your first conferences.

Okay. Okay, so, yeah, tell me about your first conferences.

Yeah, Kelly, you're making a very important point. For those of you contemplating grad school, this is Theo's experience is highly unusual and atypical. This is not what grad school normally is.

Yeah, Kelly, you're making a very important point. For those of you contemplating grad school, this is Theo's experience is highly unusual and atypical. This is not what grad school normally is.

Much higher budget. And so was this, what conference, this was ApacheCon? What was the conference?

Okay, interesting. Part of my hunch is that just looking at kind of the history, OSCON being one of the early industry conferences, that this kind of came out of one academic computer sciences conferences. Academic computer science has... the very strange tradition of having conferences as their kind of publishing vehicle rather than journals, which is what every other scientific discipline does.

Okay, interesting. Part of my hunch is that just looking at kind of the history, OSCON being one of the early industry conferences, that this kind of came out of one academic computer sciences conferences. Academic computer science has... the very strange tradition of having conferences as their kind of publishing vehicle rather than journals, which is what every other scientific discipline does.