Bryan Cantrill

And that combined with these open source and open source projects that needed to have a way or were looking for a way to get people that were otherwise collaborating to physically meet up because they were not co-located. Is that a fair kind of read for the origin of the kind of those early days of conferences?

And that combined with these open source and open source projects that needed to have a way or were looking for a way to get people that were otherwise collaborating to physically meet up because they were not co-located. Is that a fair kind of read for the origin of the kind of those early days of conferences?

And there's something actually really special about conferences of that vintage because you kind of felt like you had a super nerdy interest that you were in a Usenet group with people talking about maybe RARC. And then to meet those people in real life felt very kind of validating at a time when to be in software was kind of counterculture. I mean, it feels so...

And there's something actually really special about conferences of that vintage because you kind of felt like you had a super nerdy interest that you were in a Usenet group with people talking about maybe RARC. And then to meet those people in real life felt very kind of validating at a time when to be in software was kind of counterculture. I mean, it feels so...

I mean, God, it feels just so ancient. Sorry, Stephen, we're going to date Red Monk here as being founded in the 1880s at this rate. I mean, it feels like such a distant time when this is kind of like before software became overrun with tech pros and ate the economy. Before software ate the world, it felt like I don't know. What was your first conference?

I mean, God, it feels just so ancient. Sorry, Stephen, we're going to date Red Monk here as being founded in the 1880s at this rate. I mean, it feels like such a distant time when this is kind of like before software became overrun with tech pros and ate the economy. Before software ate the world, it felt like I don't know. What was your first conference?

A conference that I think we've actually already talked about on Oxide, friends, because this is the conference in which we sought to eat horse. I heard that. Yes. This is the California. Were you in Ghent? Yeah. You were in Ghent.

A conference that I think we've actually already talked about on Oxide, friends, because this is the conference in which we sought to eat horse. I heard that. Yes. This is the California. Were you in Ghent? Yeah. You were in Ghent.

that is exactly what happened. The, we, we called it run, Brian run after run Lola run popular at the time. I, a film, um, the, uh, no, we were Adam at the, uh, California had just made past a, a populist proposition, making it illegal to consume horse meat.

that is exactly what happened. The, we, we called it run, Brian run after run Lola run popular at the time. I, a film, um, the, uh, no, we were Adam at the, uh, California had just made past a, a populist proposition, making it illegal to consume horse meat.

Um, and Adam never wanted to have his diet dictated by the people was, uh, it was enraged and said that while in Europe, we needed to go find horse meat.

Um, and Adam never wanted to have his diet dictated by the people was, uh, it was enraged and said that while in Europe, we needed to go find horse meat.

Can we, can we get some, some horse meat from you? I mean, you can just maybe a little under the table. We will, we'll make it interesting for you. Okay.

Can we, can we get some, some horse meat from you? I mean, you can just maybe a little under the table. We will, we'll make it interesting for you. Okay.

What if Alexander Hamilton wished to order some horse meat? Would that be, would that be possible?

What if Alexander Hamilton wished to order some horse meat? Would that be, would that be possible?

We've been told there was a German tradition that on your birthday, you buy food for everybody else.

We've been told there was a German tradition that on your birthday, you buy food for everybody else.

I was like, do I actually have to not tell people it's my birthday? I had people who were German who were like, if it's your birthday and you don't want to bring a plate of sausages for your coworkers, you should definitely not tell anybody because it is definitely expected.

I was like, do I actually have to not tell people it's my birthday? I had people who were German who were like, if it's your birthday and you don't want to bring a plate of sausages for your coworkers, you should definitely not tell anybody because it is definitely expected.