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Bryan Cantrill

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Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

the degree of scrutiny that you feel yourself applying may change depending on where that code came from.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

It certainly does for me, and not so much at Oxide.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

But when I was at Sun, there were some times I'd get a code review of like, I really need to imagine what I would have been like to write this so that I know what I'm looking for.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

In other cases, you're like, well, there's some code, and there's some tests, and I'll look around.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

But a lot of the thinking has probably already been done.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

Yeah, well, I do that because when I'm reviewing someone who I consider a friend and I want to do them the service of helping them with their code.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

But I guess we're just motivated differently, and that's fine.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

Yeah, OK.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

One man's nemesis, another man's friend.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

There you go.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And then, David, as you're describing, you don't want to file a crap bug report.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

Man, have I seen some crap bug reports where people take you on this wild ride through a core file

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And you end up just nowhere.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

You're like, okay, I'm following, but all of this is just blather.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

You don't need an LLM to hallucinate.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

We've been doing that.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And we've seen these bug reports where you're like, okay, there's certainly a lot of information here, but you've actually not contributed.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

So that same, that empathy you're talking about is so at the core of engineering full stop, irrespective of the tools we're using.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

Yeah, but it's harder to write off all of humanity.