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Bryan Cantrill

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Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And a grammar.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

Yeah.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

It was early for rust.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

It was early for rust and just the work that has gone in the intervening like 10 plus years to making it approachable and the error messages sort of like convergent rather than divergent.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

Like I think my big frustration was like, go try this.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And it's like, oh, wow, that's much wronger.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

Like who told you to do that?

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

You told me to do that.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

There was nothing.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

I think so.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

Yeah.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

I mean, it was, it was, it was even simpler than the thing you, that ended up being your first Rust project.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And it should be said that the idea here also was like, you're breaking up this lock in a way that many locks before it have been broken up.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

Is that fair to say?

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

Awesome.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

And did, when you started that project, did you have a sense of what the code was probably going to look like?

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

This was not a yak shape.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

This was like, you were doing it in four hours or you're doing it in two hours, either way.

Oxide and Friends
Engineering Rigor in the LLM Age

um yeah it's interesting a lot of these uh sort of attributes or these qualities that we attribute to lm generated code are all things that as we're talking about like i've associated with other colleagues i'll just i'll provide an example i just mean when you're doing a code review brian i think my guess is like