Bryan Cantrill
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state machine um and how are we are we able to query that because of our own holistic boot because we who's got access to that so that that you could actually uh anyone who has access to the system management network so it doesn't strictly speaking need to have holistic boot um
state machine um and how are we are we able to query that because of our own holistic boot because we who's got access to that so that that you could actually uh anyone who has access to the system management network so it doesn't strictly speaking need to have holistic boot um
Yeah, totally. So you were able to go through that to figure out why is this thing not training?
Yeah, totally. So you were able to go through that to figure out why is this thing not training?
Mom is here right now. So we need to, I'm setting the mom is here, but bit, we need to actually do something slightly differently. Um,
Mom is here right now. So we need to, I'm setting the mom is here, but bit, we need to actually do something slightly differently. Um,
We actually don't care about the throughput in this manufacturing mode where we're just trying to... Yeah, the difference between Gen 1 and Gen 2 is not going to
We actually don't care about the throughput in this manufacturing mode where we're just trying to... Yeah, the difference between Gen 1 and Gen 2 is not going to
Dissatisfying that we don't know what's going on. We also learned in this that as it turns out, this mode, we think this makes a lot of sense to use this manufacturing mode on every boot. But it may make... It's a little more unusual from Chelsea's perspective.
Dissatisfying that we don't know what's going on. We also learned in this that as it turns out, this mode, we think this makes a lot of sense to use this manufacturing mode on every boot. But it may make... It's a little more unusual from Chelsea's perspective.
This was hugely important because these were, I mean, when we, in our testing in manufacturing, when these things were failing to come into manufacturing mode, we effectively, we like would not ship that sled. Because we didn't know what the issue was. And we didn't know. I know Nathaniel was, I'm sure, very relieved to get it back into the software domain.
This was hugely important because these were, I mean, when we, in our testing in manufacturing, when these things were failing to come into manufacturing mode, we effectively, we like would not ship that sled. Because we didn't know what the issue was. And we didn't know. I know Nathaniel was, I'm sure, very relieved to get it back into the software domain.
Because the nightmare is you've got a manufacturing defect, effectively, where it's like, yeah, that board needs to be scrapped. And that was not the case, which is a huge relief.
Because the nightmare is you've got a manufacturing defect, effectively, where it's like, yeah, that board needs to be scrapped. And that was not the case, which is a huge relief.
Yeah. Well, this is a very important point you're making, Robert, in terms of holistic design also means holistic debugging. And when the system is not behaving correctly, you've got to get ready to cross a bunch of different boundaries that are historically difficult boundaries to cross. And you've got to be able to really get a team together from across the stack to go brainstorm an issue. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, this is a very important point you're making, Robert, in terms of holistic design also means holistic debugging. And when the system is not behaving correctly, you've got to get ready to cross a bunch of different boundaries that are historically difficult boundaries to cross. And you've got to be able to really get a team together from across the stack to go brainstorm an issue. Yeah.
Right. I mean, I think having all those kind of options at our disposal really does allow us to... I mean, as you say, Robert, it gives us the opportunity to go holistically debug. Right. Yeah, that is awesome.
Right. I mean, I think having all those kind of options at our disposal really does allow us to... I mean, as you say, Robert, it gives us the opportunity to go holistically debug. Right. Yeah, that is awesome.
That's right. And actually, RFD88 is actually already public, which is great. So that one I don't need to make public because it's already public, but that's another one to check out, which is an RFD that talks about exactly kind of how we think about who does what in the system. And definitely a consequence of this, again, this kind of holistic thinking.
That's right. And actually, RFD88 is actually already public, which is great. So that one I don't need to make public because it's already public, but that's another one to check out, which is an RFD that talks about exactly kind of how we think about who does what in the system. And definitely a consequence of this, again, this kind of holistic thinking.