Bryan Cantrill

And then it was abandoned for a long time before it ultimately became, I think, a Stanford building.

And then it was abandoned for a long time before it ultimately became, I think, a Stanford building.

And did you think about like at that point, do you or do you just know so resolutely? Certainly I knew resolutely then that like this industry is my this is my calling. Like I'm not there's no amount of bust that's going to get me to do something else.

And did you think about like at that point, do you or do you just know so resolutely? Certainly I knew resolutely then that like this industry is my this is my calling. Like I'm not there's no amount of bust that's going to get me to do something else.

Much better during the bust.

Much better during the bust.

I also just feel like that is such a like snapshot of an age to where it's like having friends help you move is something you grow out of. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, but not awkward. There's a certain age, and there's an age in which it's age-appropriate, and then there's an age in which it is not age-appropriate to get movers.

I also just feel like that is such a like snapshot of an age to where it's like having friends help you move is something you grow out of. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, but not awkward. There's a certain age, and there's an age in which it's age-appropriate, and then there's an age in which it is not age-appropriate to get movers.

And I would say that our last move was right outside of that age-appropriate window, where I kind of realized that, like, you know what? I think it's time to get movers. Pizza and beer only works. Pizza and beer, it's like, yeah, Tim and Claudio, God bless you for putting in a very hard day of labor for a pretty meager pizza and beer at the end of it. Yeah. Yeah.

And I would say that our last move was right outside of that age-appropriate window, where I kind of realized that, like, you know what? I think it's time to get movers. Pizza and beer only works. Pizza and beer, it's like, yeah, Tim and Claudio, God bless you for putting in a very hard day of labor for a pretty meager pizza and beer at the end of it. Yeah. Yeah.

So public in August 1999, which is why I remember it.

So public in August 1999, which is why I remember it.

My loss carry forward from the dot-com bust, I was living off that for a while. Let's just say that loss carry forward I had for many, many years.

My loss carry forward from the dot-com bust, I was living off that for a while. Let's just say that loss carry forward I had for many, many years.

That's right. Oh, man.

That's right. Oh, man.

Right. I know. I wish I were making it up. So there we go. It's all lived experience. I also felt like that whole experience, though, was also just a good reminder of like, okay, no, no, no. Why am I here? Because it's very easy. When employees are all checking the stock ticker every day, it's like it's... Oh, yeah.

Right. I know. I wish I were making it up. So there we go. It's all lived experience. I also felt like that whole experience, though, was also just a good reminder of like, okay, no, no, no. Why am I here? Because it's very easy. When employees are all checking the stock ticker every day, it's like it's... Oh, yeah.

You know, and I always felt that one of the things that was an interesting observation, I felt, Adam, that we did much better work at Sun in the bus than we ever did in the boom. And I think it's just... when you kind of take away that, but when you get everyone there for much more intrinsic reasons, when you take it, because the, because the extrinsic motivation has gone to three.

You know, and I always felt that one of the things that was an interesting observation, I felt, Adam, that we did much better work at Sun in the bus than we ever did in the boom. And I think it's just... when you kind of take away that, but when you get everyone there for much more intrinsic reasons, when you take it, because the, because the extrinsic motivation has gone to three.