Bryan Greene

And it was far from a comedy, but he is funny in the show at times.

But to watch that transformation.

However, I was, that was unfolding just, you know, unfolding and we didn't really know what it would become.

I know I was obsessed.

I know I loved it, but I didn't understand the totality of Breaking Bad and what it would become, what Bryan Cranston would become as Heisenberg.

Yeah.

You were rooting for him at first.

Then you were questioning why you were rooting for him.

Then he was a total lunatic, but you still managed to root for him.

And then he was like the worst person on earth.

But you were praying that he was alive and that he would be freed from that, that he wouldn't suffer any consequences.

Yeah.

It's like you became obsessed with this absolutely evil person with very little morals or values, but you wanted to root for him.

And that's why I think Jesse became a necessity in that show, because he relieved that moral valve a little bit.

That's true.

You felt like somebody in this craziness...

has some redeeming value.

And that's why Jesse, I think, became such a critical role and he was very good in that role.

You could feel empathetic for him where at the end, the Bryan Cranston role of Heisenberg

Walt, it was kind of like, is there any redeeming value about you kill people?