Bryan McAnulty

Where does business go and how do we decide what we should even build?

What is even worth building?

And like you mentioned, the thing that you built, now suddenly there's ChatGPT Finance, which is doing it so well.

So how do you decide to build a thing that is not just going to get built by somebody else so easily or something like that, right?

And I think that where everything is shifting to is towards building for outcomes.

And so like building something that delivers the outcome directly instead of just helping to achieve the outcome.

And I don't know if you've heard of seeing some people talking about that.

It's not software as a service anymore.

It's service as a software.

I think that not only is software moving this direction, but I think even like agencies are moving this direction that like, so software has to become more like a service.

Agencies have to become more like a software in that we're not just delivering something that's going to like people would buy the software because they hope that if they click around the software, it's going to help them maybe achieve something faster.

Now there's no reason to learn software anymore.

There's no reason to be clicking around software anymore.

I can say that as somebody who I'm building the software for a living, right?

What people want to achieve is the outcome.

And now with these AI agents, you can build these agents that just help deliver the outcome.

And it doesn't have to be through the software directly and like only the software, but it can be the combination of like, if it's an agency, your team plus the agents that your team is working with in order to deliver that for a client.

Yes, exactly.

So like imagine before AI, if you wanted the reel done for you, then you have to hire an agency or video editor or something to end up with that final product.

Now, we have, yeah, something like Opus is like, they're trying to deliver the outcome.