Bryon Gustafson

But now it's like punji pits that you literally have to watch out for when you're walking along, like soft dirt that you can step in.

And this is after, I guess I don't know, the 30 plus years of the Forest Service, you know, having to put these, move these latrines, you know, and so there's a bunch of different spots.

So I was able to convince a bunch of veterans to, you know, go into the back country and dig up a bunch of human shit.

I mean, it's 17 now, but- Is it though?

As per the last, I think it was a 2024 annual prevention, suicide prevention report, it was 17 per day.

So the initial number was 22, but there is a caveat that if you were to-

to add in, right, statistics related to high risk activity, right, as well as alcohol, X, Y, Z, that they think that it could get quite a bit higher.

It's just hard to tease out those variables.

I agree with you about most of that when it comes to just how much we lean on alcohol alone.

And if we have some C baggage coming in and then we do our service, we got some C baggage going out.

The only way that I know how to, again, most of this comes down to a feeling of anxiety and guilt and feeling low, right?

If the only way that I know to make myself feel better is to drink a bunch of alcohol,

copious amounts of poison over extended periods of time are going to change your personality.

So that's not useful at all.

You'd have to get rid of that certainly is something to take off the table.

And then with the veteran group, when you don't have much of a, when you go from hunting humans for your country,

Sure.

Fair enough.

When you play hide and seek.

With night vision at night.